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Old 01-05-2012, 02:36 AM   #31
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You can setup your facebook so that nobody can post to it, or only close friends, or everyone. it takes some looking, but all the controls are there.

I have a personal and a company page. I paid a little to get my company website up, but after messing around with a gallery section and being frustrated working with the program, I was given a good tip. Use company site to generate traffic, have a gallery that sends them to the facebook page. One thing about facebook, it's easy to manipulate the pictures. Generating traffic on both sites and cross-linking is good for both as well.

I plan on expanding both at some point, but right now it's just nice to have them there. Links to both go out on every estimate and having a lot of pictures up is appreciated by some customers looking for ideas.

I think I'm already connected with everyone who has posted a link, mines in my signature below.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:02 AM   #32
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John, in the last couple months I have had someone do my website. I was not a "facebook" kinda person. I probably mentioned that on this thread. We are in a "facebook" nation currently. People can't get enough of it. Look at me, look at what I did today, look at what I did 5 minutes ago....so on so fourth....

We are in a commenting nation too. So with all that being the case, I have decided to let someone restart my facebook page for business. I have 2 fb's as well like Chad. One is a business front so to speak and other is business but not a "front."

Anything that helps you with your business is worth doing. For me anything that might get customers to my website is. If facebook is your only source of advert. again it is free.

Facebook is a popularity type a thing, comment on that comment on this. Great because if someone doesn't write something positive just delete them. Getting popular means people will know you and that could be good for your tile business or any business. Everyone wants to link everything to everything these days, networking at it's finest.

I think someday we will elect our president from Facebook. The one that gets the most "likes" and great comments becomes president of our "Facebook Nation."
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:30 AM   #33
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I think someday we will elect our president from Facebook. The one that gets the most "likes" and great comments becomes president of our "Facebook Nation."
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:02 AM   #34
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Thanks guys.

I'm seriously considering starting one.
If I do I'll post up the link. Just want to collect more pictures for a while first.

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Old 01-05-2012, 04:28 PM   #35
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Facebook wont be around in 5 years. probably die out to nothing when the next big thing takes over. so ride the fun while you can.

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So have those that used facebook found it to be a useful alternative to having a website?
Does it turn up any work, or do you do it just to share?
it doesn't generate business in a sense people look for tile installers and find you. the search doesn't work that way. I have got a bunch of jobs from tagging or adding a customer and their friends or relatives see the project. pretty much the same as word of mouth imo.
people aren't going to facebook to find contractors, clothes, etc. they are just on there keeping in touch with friends and family.

I only like it to network and show projects to others I have as friends...that's about it.

I would focus on a real webpage and bring business to you that way.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:36 PM   #36
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Yes, I agree with Brian something else will take over, maybe micro chips in our heads linking all all together for a true wireless network. No more cell phones we just talk to each other in our minds and we get answers without needing that cell phone glued to our person.

I went to a wrestling match last night, my friend's kids wrestle. Everyone is on their cell phone constantly texting. Like a cocaine addict, people are addicted to it and constantly need that to be talking with someone or getting that text "high," ...lol I sure hope cell phones aren't gonna cause cancer down the road, might only be a little radiation you say but as much as people are on em.......... you never know.

Don't get me wrong people need them for business but after 5PM you usually aren't getting business calls anyway.

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If I do I'll post up the link. Just want to collect more pictures for a while first.
One thing I want to recommend John, if you can go back and get pics of the work you did as it is now decorated. I have a lot of pics I took right after I finished a job and the tile looks nice but no where near like when everything is back in place. Like glass on a shower or curtains....etc. Even now I am pursuing going to homes I did work to get another pic so I can replace on currently on the website.

Any way you can get someone to look at your website is something you should do and you want a good website so show your work and what you can do. Without that it is hard to get business. Yes many of us do get referrals but this is the age of people using the internet to find contractors not the yellow pages.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:16 PM   #37
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I don't use mine as often as I should, but I have got one job from FB that somebody locally stumbled upon.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:58 PM   #38
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it doesn't generate business in a sense people look for tile installers and find you. the search doesn't work that way. I have got a bunch of jobs from tagging or adding a customer and their friends or relatives see the project. pretty much the same as word of mouth imo.
people aren't going to facebook to find contractors, clothes, etc. they are just on there keeping in touch with friends and family.
This is what i figured. I'd probably just end up with a bunch of people that already know me checking it out for the most part.
I'd still have fun with that, feels good to show off my work. Probably wouldnt make me any $ though.

There is one advantage however, I live in a small town and our town has a forum somewhat like the JBforum (although smaller). We've recently lost our main newspaper, so much of the population is browsing that forum constantly even if they arent posting themselves. There have even been a few threads on that forum about people looking for various work to get done.
I think by using that site as well I could get quite a few looks at my facebook page. But If I want to come back Its going to have to catch their interest somehow. If all they get to see is 3 pictures from 2 years ago and no comments or activity its going to look pretty lame.

I'm in agreement, a real website would be better. I'm just not sure I'm ready yet. I'm not sure how just how much advertising I want to get into here as I'm also considering a move (http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=95772), although now I dont see that happening this year....

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Old 01-05-2012, 08:02 PM   #39
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One thing I want to recommend John, if you can go back and get pics of the work you did as it is now decorated. I have a lot of pics I took right after I finished a job and the tile looks nice but no where near like when everything is back in place. Like glass on a shower or curtains....etc. Even now I am pursuing going to homes I did work to get another pic so I can replace on currently on the website.
Yes, this is a good idea! I've asked a few people briefly and people have been willing (I try to keep friendly with former customers), but its always been "sure, just give us a call sometime". And then I dont, so my fault. I'm going to have to put more effort into that. Especialy some of the jobs that I feel stood out.

Thanks for the opinions!
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:07 PM   #40
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I have picked up 6 jobs off my Facebook. One was from a contractor that pulled my business name from the NTCA website. He googled the company and found the Facebook page. I have done several projects for him and have 3 upcoming project on the books with him. The other jobs came through an advertising blitz I tried with them. I bought impressions on friends of friends pages, total spent was $10. One was for a floor, one backsplash, 2 shower/tub rebuilds and one shower. Money well spent, IMO. Total number of impressions was over 10,000.

Paul, I do not post everyday. I try to post a pic or two from each project. Sometimes I post pics of work done improperly. Sometimes of the amazing things we discover during the course of a project. If I do something new or outside the norm for a local tile contractor, I will post that. I post pics from trade events- NTCA functions or local HBA functions. I find it to be a great tool and try to use it as much as possible. In fact, might be time for another ad campaign. Might splurge and spend $20 this time.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #41
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Like others said, Facebook is easy to post pics on and a good place to show friends and they show their friends. I have gotten a few good jobs from it. I use it more like a current work blog and customers seem to like it.

I think a real website is more professional but they can work hand in hand.

I have a link to my FB page on my site.

Do both. FB is free and easy. Website, not so much. (for me anyway)
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:21 PM   #42
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John, I do not have a website. I personally dont think I need one . JB and I have had some serious comments over this. I would have to pay someone to keep my web site up.

I can add to my FB page as I need / want to.

Here is my page if you can to look at it.

search for it by : Kitchen and Bath Makeovers - Tullahoma

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kitche...39314346091058

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Personally if what you have gets you enough business, your golden. Seems to me facebook is a vehicle as would be your friends who have seen your work to tell others. Kind a like referrals.

Had I not gotten a website done I wouldn't have gotten back on facebook. This time is it more to business network vs. friends or along those lines. Mainly though I let someone else take on the facebook cause any way to get someone to your website is the main goal. I agree you should have someone do your website, yes it does cost money and money to keep upgraded. Just depends on your needs. Hammy if you generate enough business without a website then I can see your argument with JB...... who won?
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:17 PM   #44
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I have had a website for a year now. I haven't gotten one job off of it (that I know they found me because of my site), but it is still worth having. Now with my new one I have to pay $50 a year for hosting, and I tiled two small bathroom floors in trade for the lady that made it for me. I know if people are looking online in my city they will find it. Google Grand Junction tile contractors and I am the first non-ad site that comes up. I usually get 1 or 2 hits a month from my city, and 4-5 a day from Denver and don't pay attention to the outside of Colorado geographics of the rest. My new site has only been up a week or two though so I am hoping that a professional site will generate me more business. But even if it doesn't, being able to tell people I have a website is professional and worth the $50 a year.

edit - I get 1 -2 hits from my city a month that come from a search engine. I get probably 6-10 that are direct, meaning they type in www.levithetileguy.com. So I figure those ones are either getting the site off of my business cards that I handed them, or saw it on my shirt or trailer.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:31 PM   #45
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Get everywhere! Have a website and point everything else to it one way or another. Think of your website as your home base and every other site (facebook, twitter, linkedin, etc.) as your advertising with your website on it. They are ALL just a method to funnel everyone to your website.

If set up correctly you can track absolutely everyone that ends up on your site back to wherever they came from. Since time for all of us except Brian is limited, take a look at where most of your website traffic is coming from and concentrate or refine a large bulk of your time in that spot.

Stalk Brian around the internet and do everything he does (except for the three word post replies to build your comment count up to 21,000), right after he does it, but be non-spammy about it, unlike him. I'm just kidding, Brian does it well and is just about everywhere you want your website to be, follow that example.

I have a facebook both for personal (where I'm a smart-ass) as well as business (where I keep it professional). You DO NOT have to post on it every other day, or even every week. Facebook is big enough and popular enough that you can actually go months at a time without posting anything, then right after you do post something it shows up on google ten minutes later, much like this here forum.

Watch, here's an example. In about ten minutes google this: "Brian is a spam monkey" (or just click that link) This site should be number one. It happens that quickly. Facebook is no exception.

https://www.facebook.com/TileArtCenter
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