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Old 10-02-2010, 12:48 PM   #1
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6 x 24 Wood Look Tile

My brother just bought a house and he wants to install a 6 x 24 tile that looks like wood. My questions are:

1) How is this material usually ran? Staggered randomly, offset like brick, staggered every so many inches?????????? (exclude any type of herringbone).
I Would think that randomly staggered would look good myself.

2) What thin-set would you guys use? I'm thinking that the Laticrete 4XLT would work? (it's over concrete)

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Old 10-02-2010, 01:26 PM   #2
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I use normal 253 from laticrete and I run it on a random pattern.
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:28 PM   #3
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1. I'd wanna have the tiles in hand before making that decision, Ben. You can get a whole gaggle of crown in the center of those long, skinny things and trying to stagger more than maybe six inches might buy you a lotta lippage. The flatness of your slab will be really important, too.

Get a bunch laid out onna floor and see what you can actually do with'em before you commit to a pattern.

2. Whatever good quality product is available in the area. Nothing special about those tiles, they're still ceramic. You'll need to determine whether you want/need any uncoupling or crack isolation in your installation and act accordingly.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 10-02-2010, 03:03 PM   #4
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OK I'll lay it out as suggested because that will determine how we can install it (pattern). It just seems to me that a random pattern would look good. I just wasn't sure if there were any rules (written or spoken or do I mean unspoken hummm) with that kind of pattern as to how far joints should be from adjacent tiles. It has been years since I installed a floor like this and the tile was already different lengths on that job. I only installed wood one time and it was all different lengths and they were skinny strips, took forever to do an entry.

I'm just going to 'flash' the floor and perhaps grind a little here and there if needed. I will just address the cracks with Laticrete 9235 and felt unless they are pretty bad. I won't know until the existing floor is exposed.

I was going to use the TLS but this tile is NOT rectified so I'll just install it as tight as I can. I already know the tile is not sized very well so it is going to take a little play to get it right and some tile spikes (spacers) here and there.
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Laticrete has some crack isolation products, Ben, but I don't believe 9235 is one of'em. That's specifically designed and specified as a waterproofing membrane, I believe.

You might look into their new 125 Sound & Crack Adhesive if you want a one-step setting product and need some crack isolation. Little spendy up front but can save a world of time if that's a consideration.

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Ben,

you can use Hydro Barrier or even HydroBan and a crack membrane.
9235 can work but is more a pricey waterproofing with fabric
Laticrete doesn't have just a liquid crack membrane like Customs Fracture Free.
if you want to do just the cracks use the Blue92 crack suppression kit or the full Blue 92 all over.

you can do a straight layout of the planks and as others said before, try to avoid "H's" in the grout joints. each time I start a new row I take off a different cut and use it to start the next row. then maybe 6-7 rows later start another full. just don't be repetitive.





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I prefer the random look too.

125 sound and crack will save the day.
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Spoke with Brian earlier and he basically confirmed everything I needed to be warm and fuzzy about being I haven't actually set tile in quite some time. I'm definitely going to use the Laticrete Permacolor grout as Brian suggested. These are all new products for me.

There really isn't enough money for those expensive setting materials like sound and crack thin-set here in Florida. People won't fork out money for that here. Besides if you are driving down the road with a pallet of Laticrete here in Florida, you might just get truck jacked. "Hey , there is a rich tile installer, lets rob him".
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like sound and crack thin-set here in Florida.
plus your on a slab and dont need the sound like you would in a Condo floor.
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In a few weeks I'm about to install 1100 sf of a similar product. We already know there are some cracks in the slab, so I'm going to use Laticrete 125 on any pieces that span a crack. If the homeowner wants it, I'll use an anti-fracture membrane over the whole floor for a little extra insurance.

I would randomly stagger the joints as mentioned before. As a general rule, you would want the end joints at least 6" apart for three successive rows.

This can be difficult if not impossible with only 24" long pieces, so you can cheat a little on the 6" rule. I usually try to make those cheaters in an area that will fall under furniture or near corners and walls.
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Done lots of it randon. I like the way it looks. Most of the jobs i've done with the "wood tile", the tiles have been real bowed and so i've never really been perfectly happy with any pattern. But when you're done it looks nice. Only so much you can do with a bowed tile thats 24" long. Till I get my tile bender back from the shop.
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