Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile Tile Monthly Magazine

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books   Buy a TYW Shirt

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Tile Forum/Advice Board

Sponsors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-09-2010, 02:29 PM   #1
jennstock90
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
45 degree angle cuts

My husband and I have started a bathroom remodel in our 80 + year old home. I've been lurking on this forum for a while and have learned a great deal from the information you all give, so thank you. Now for my problem, I want to trim a window inside of the shower with ceramic chair rail...In my dreams I simply would cut a 45 degree angle for the four corners and they would fit together perfectly and all would be peaceful and productive in our world. Reality is biting us in the b*tt, however. I will admit that I don't have a mathematical mind and that I'm sure I am missing something completely obvious and simple, but at the risk of looking like an idiot please take a look at the pics and tell me why the cuts aren't lining up. Each tile is 2x6 and I cut each tile at the 3 inch mark.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Attached Images
  
__________________
Kelly
jennstock90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-09-2010, 02:54 PM   #2
Brad Denny
Tile Contractor Nashville, TN
 
Brad Denny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Joelton, TN
Posts: 3,979
Hi Kelly, Welcome to the forum.
I think one of the edges are longer than the other, but I guess you know that.
Is that an actual chair rail, or a sink rail (a sink rail is made to go along the edge of a counter top, so the backside is level in two spots, but the top edge goes further in to lap onto the counter)?
How did you determine where to cut the angle?
__________________
Brad


Brad Denny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 03:21 PM   #3
jennstock90
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Unhappy

Hi Brad, thank you for the welcome!
It is chair rail molding so the back is level all the way across, except the curve. (its hollow) I just measured 3 inches in from whichever end I was cutting from, so that meant starting my angle in the middle of the tile. I was trying to wrap around the corner with 3 inches on either side. I just tried starting the angle at the corner, 3 inch wrap be damned, and it still comes out wrong. Maybe I'm just really tired!
__________________
Kelly
jennstock90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 03:25 PM   #4
cx
da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
 
cx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
Posts: 73,575
Welcome, Kelly.

Those two pieces are clearly not the same width if the two cuts are actually the same 45 degree angle. Take us a picher with the square edges butted together.

You're gonna need to get alla pieces the same width to make your trim work with or without the mitered cuts. But if they're the same width, you gotta make sure you're cutting two forty-fives, eh?

My opinion; worth price charged.
__________________
CX

Y'ALL NEW VISITORS READ THIS HERE! ......
cx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 03:27 PM   #5
Brad Denny
Tile Contractor Nashville, TN
 
Brad Denny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Joelton, TN
Posts: 3,979
Well Kelly, it's time to call it a day. Every tile setter knows that the proverbial wall is there, and that pushing past it only results in poorer quality (or one heck of a headache).
If you don't have a small speed square, pick one up at Lowe's or HD. They got cheap plastic ones for less than $5 I'd guess. Makes a huge difference when trying to make angled cuts.
__________________
Brad


Brad Denny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 03:51 PM   #6
jennstock90
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Thank you all for taking a stab at this...I don't have a speed square, I was relying on the thing on my tile saw to make my 45. (I don't even know what its called ) That might be part of my problem. Is it recommended to cut from the center toward the corner or vice-versa?
Also, would it help to make it a compound miter? or am I just asking for more wasted tile?
Agree on that proverbial wall thing, I just think I'm this close to figuring it out...maybe I need a drink.
__________________
Kelly
jennstock90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #7
Brad Denny
Tile Contractor Nashville, TN
 
Brad Denny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Joelton, TN
Posts: 3,979
Starting at the corner usually works best, Kelly, but it all depends on the material and how your blade is cutting. You've created some scrap to work with , so try it both ways to see which works best. No need for a compound miter. Did you try placing them side by side as CX suggested? On occasion a tile might just have been made larger than its neighbor. Be sure to size them on the next run, as you use the speed square to mark the tiles or as a gauge on the saw.
__________________
Brad


Brad Denny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 04:20 PM   #8
jennstock90
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Did you just hear the hallelujah chorus coming from the North? Cause that was me in Indiana...hubby decided not to take my word for it on the measurements and checked them himself. The tiles are actually 2 3/8 wide, so rather than making the cut at 3 inches he made it at 2 3/8, and it is perfect. I'm sure there is some mathematical equation for why it worked but I won't understand it. Thank you for your patience and expertise...this job has only just begun-I'll be back!
(I'm gonna finish my drink!)
__________________
Kelly
jennstock90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 04:24 PM   #9
Brad Denny
Tile Contractor Nashville, TN
 
Brad Denny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Joelton, TN
Posts: 3,979
See, the "wall" is further away than you thought it was.
__________________
Brad


Brad Denny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2010, 04:37 PM   #10
Brad Denny
Tile Contractor Nashville, TN
 
Brad Denny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Joelton, TN
Posts: 3,979
Oh, and I did hear something, I just thought it was the coon dogs 'cross the street.
__________________
Brad


Brad Denny is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Buy John's New Book!   Tile Your World Online Store   Contractors Direct Tile Tool Store   Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
45 degree angle joints timo Tile Forum/Advice Board 3 02-06-2009 05:40 AM
Tiling a 45 degree angle Rik Tile Forum/Advice Board 25 03-29-2008 05:27 PM
20-degree backsplash angle BlueCanyon Tile Forum/Advice Board 3 09-06-2005 10:22 AM
45 degree angle cuts lac Tile Forum/Advice Board 9 07-28-2004 05:55 PM
Tiling on a 45 degree angle renegadecj Tile Forum/Advice Board 8 06-12-2004 10:03 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:37 AM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 John Bridge & Associates, LLC