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Old 05-22-2010, 05:38 PM   #1
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kitchen cabinet question

I know this is a tile forum and you guys have all helped me enormously but i do have a question about kitchen cupboard doors and cannot find a forum for this. Maybe one of you can direct me to a site.. Maybe you can help me. I have oak kitchen cupboards with an old style scallop inset on each of the doors, The doors are solid oak but the the middle panels are thin board, not sure what they are made of. THe scallop is at the top and the bottom on the inside. What i want to do is redesign them so they resemble a shaker style. I thought maybe i could use a sharp knife and cut the top of the scallop off but my son says the way the cabinet is made it looks like it is almost like a tong and groove and i will compromise the door if i do this. Any suggestions?????
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:54 PM   #2
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Can you post a photo or 2? Cab doors are often t&g, mortise & tenon, or similar joint for added strength. But if you're not cutting into the t&g, then you wouldn't likely be reducing the door strength... maybe.

You can make new doors of course, it's done all the time.
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a picture would help.............and yes it can be done and rebuilt...a little router and a pin nailer and some glue and some time
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:31 PM   #4
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How do i post a photo?
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:15 PM   #5
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here is photo's
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:51 AM   #6
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yeah its tung and grove...............and only way to change it is change the whole door
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:55 PM   #7
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Looks like a flat panel/mortise and tenon door. Kinda tricky to get the (probably 1/4") plywood panel out - you'd have to remove the back shoulder of the mortise all the way around the panel and then tack new material of your choice in from the back.

None of that will get rid of the "scallop" which appears to be routed into the frame....

Probably easier and a better result to make or buy new doors.
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:00 PM   #8
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Technically, it's a cope and stick joint. And yes, you'd be better off just getting new doors.
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:09 PM   #9
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To clarify, do you want to simply cut away the small inside bead detail on the front of your cabinet doors so it looks identical to the back sides of your cabinet doors? ..................Or are you trying to cut away the arches from the tops and bottoms (rails) of the doors so everything becomes rectangular?

The first could technically be done, but you'd look most of your groove and the edges of the recessed panel would become visible. The second could also be done, but you'd also need to fit in a new recessed panel. Both of these options require throwing too much time and money after a product that is too easy to replace.

It's far better to take the advice of the guys above and buy or make new doors. If you tell us what part of the country you're in, you might find some help here on the forum. There's a lot of guys including myself that make cabinet doors.

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Thanks for all your help. I am off to Home Depot to purchase new doors.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:53 PM   #11
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Looks like you have your answer on the cabinet doors.

For future reference here's a link to Sawmill Creek, a popular woodworker's forum:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/
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