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04-20-2010, 11:19 AM
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Bathroom remodel
Great forum - the information is invaluable. Thanks all.
I've gutted my master bathroom down to the studs, and am ready to start thinking about building my shower. There isn't much room, so I purchased a 36x36 neo-angled shower enclosure and plan on constructing my own shower base with kerdi drain and waterproofing with kerdi.
After some further thought and measurements, I seem to have more room than I initially thought... the shower is actually a few inches smaller than 36" according to the template they provide.
So I was thinking of building the shower out a bit by adding two vertical 2x4's, floor to ceiling where the shower panel meets the wall and just tile around them.
Do you forsee any issues with this?
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04-20-2010, 02:39 PM
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Welcome Jeff. 
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Originally Posted by Jeff
Do you forsee any issues with this?
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'Fraid I can't even see the this.
Just what is this surround of which you speak and how does it fit with a tiled Kerdi shower pan?
You are intending to attach tile to these vertical 2x4s of which you speak?
These 2x4s would be within the wet area of the shower?
You got pichers of what you're workin' with? We like pichers.
My opinion; worth price charged.
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04-21-2010, 12:45 PM
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Hopefully this will help.
the 2x4's will be drywall'd and since part of the wet area, they will be kerdi'd and then tiled, yes.
My idea was just to make the shower bigger.
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04-21-2010, 01:08 PM
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That'll work. It'll give you an opportunity to straighten the walls if they were not plumb.
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04-23-2010, 07:11 AM
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Yes, this is true. It will also give me some nice backer to attached my shower panels to.
Another question if I may, I plan on tiling the wall up to the ceiling. Is it required that I apply the kerdi all the way up to the ceiling? Is just past the the shower head sufficient? If that's good enough, should I be using something other that sheetrock for the space between where the kerdi ends and the ceiling?
Thanks
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04-23-2010, 08:35 AM
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Jeff,
Kerdi only needs to be applied to the height of the shower arm. You don't need to do anything special above the kerdi. I tiled all the way to the ceiling after ending my kerdi at the shower arm height. I believe I did switch to modified thinset above the kerdi. The drywall was new and unfinished in my case.
Brian
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04-23-2010, 11:26 AM
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Thanks Brian.
As for around the 2x4's I'm adding, as long as the wet area has the kerdi membrane, I should be ok?
Thanks.
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05-04-2010, 11:45 AM
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Before I found this site, I went to my local tile shop and asked what I needed for my mortar bed for my shower. He told me to buy these items. He says it should be a 2:1 ratio, 2 parts Dry Pack Mortar Mix to one part 57 Scratch Coat.
Am i on the right track with these products? To me, the Mortar Mix would be all I needed.
Thanks.
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05-04-2010, 12:09 PM
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Post links to the data sheets and I'll have a look. In English please.
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"the road to hell is paved with osb, mastic, pre-mixed 'thinset', "
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05-04-2010, 01:01 PM
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05-04-2010, 01:12 PM
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It looks to me like all you really need is the Dry Pack Mortar. The other stuff is more like a setting mortar, and if you mixed it with the Dry Pack, the Dry Pack will be come harder to work with (stickier). It may become stronger, too, but that's not a real bonus for a mud bed.
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05-04-2010, 01:20 PM
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I'm with you Jeff, according to the Data Sheet the 'Dry Pack Mortar Mix' should do the job. Make sure to follow all their installation instructions and I'd mix with water.
edit;
looks like Bob's quicker on the draw, but the advice looks aboot the same.
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05-04-2010, 01:22 PM
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Sounds good guys, thanks.
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