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Old 03-23-2010, 08:37 AM   #1
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18" x 18" and 13" x 13" hopscotch tile pattern tile needed

I am having a hard time figuring out how much tile I need for a 385 sq ft area, hopscotch, 18" x 18" and 13" x 13", 1/8" grout lines. Any clue on how to figure this besides laying them out?

Also, how much extra for waste?

And...any experience w/ Emser porcelain tile?
emser.com/showroom/piazza/piazza.html

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:05 PM   #3
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Wow, big help! Thanks! I decided to go with a 17 13/16" sq tile. Does the calculator assume 18" is 18".

Also, when it recommends tile, is that taking into account waste at 20%?
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I just ran a 10x10 room with 12x12 tile and it came to 104 sqft. So, 4% over for that floor.

I would assume those tile sizes are nominal for coverage sake. For your project figure 5-7% over. If it's many rooms that tie together or chopped up, maybe a little higher 8-12%.
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:09 AM   #5
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Sounds good....
I decided to go with Roman Noce, 18" and 12" in hopscotch. Can I get away with 1/8" grout lines even though these tiles are short 3/16"; if they will walk will it be noticeable? Longest span is 32' x 7'7".
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your hopscotch will decide grout joint
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:20 AM   #7
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sorry, not getting it....
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He's telling you there is only one grout joint that will work with the two actual tile sizes you have, Bridgette. You gotta lay some out or measure a bunch of'em and do the math to see what that is.
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sry basically cx got you covered the pattern ultimatly dictates the size id dry lay at least 3 of each to see if you get a little variation in tile size and youll get your average joint size

these tiles from the same company same tile line just different sixes and color or are they mixed ?
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ok, gotcha. just dif't sizes; all else the same. should i just dry lay the whole thing cause i'm such a novice?
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I'd suggest you lay enough to get a feel for it, Bridgette. Enough at least to determine your pattern and where you want your layout lines.
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up to you, but id lay out a few dozen just to get a feel for the sizing use this to measure off of for your layout and joint size
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ok, will do. I wasn't sure if I should start a new thread b/c I have another question but it is another topic. Well here goes. The subfloors of the kitchen and family room are approximately 1/4" off level. The length of different heights is about 4'. Are there any transition strips or easy fixes I am missing for this situation?
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Hi!
I have gotten some great advice on this project in another thread but the ?s keep coming up so I thought I'd lump them.
We have drylayed the entire kitchen in 18" and 12"sq hopscotch with 1/8" groutlines. We plan to lay with Laticrete 254 over the membrane Dal-seal. Any suggestions on a good place to start and technique on how much to remove and lay and how to remove without shifting the pattern.

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Bridgette, go around the perimeter of the room and mark the walls where the groutlines are. Then take up the tiles, do any last prep work on the floor, then snap some grid lines on the floor using the marks you made on the walls. With a hopscotch pattern, you won't need to make a line for every tile, but enough to guide you as you set the tiles. A couple of good pictures of your dry layout will remind you if needed.

Gridlines make it possible to start anywhere in the room, and work around obstructions like islands and divider walls.
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