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11-14-2009, 08:51 AM
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Kerapoxy vs ultracolor plus
Hi!
I am working for a major company in quebec city and lately we are having problems with kerapoxy so we are considering switching to ultracolor plus. As i understand ultra has all the same qualities except being acid resistant.of course mapei reps or flooring stores salespersons won't give us an honest point of view because they make more money with kerapoxy.do you think we should ban kerapoxy which is a pain in the ass anyway?
Thanx and pardon my english.
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11-14-2009, 09:17 AM
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da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
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Welcome, Chris. 
We prefer the technical discussions and mostly unsubstantiated product bashing take place here in the Professionals' Hangout rather than in the shallow end where we try to help our DIY visitors.
If you're in the tile trades up there, how 'bout putting a bit of information in your User Profile so folks can see what sort of work you do and maybe a little professional background. We're a pretty friendly group hereabouts.
I don't see a real question in your post, but if you'll type either of those brand names into the Advanced Search feature and ask for Titles Only you'll find a bit of discussion about each.
And if you'll give us a little detail concerning your "lately we are having problems with kerapoxy" statement, perhaps some of the other pros will help you with the problem or tell you they've seen the same. We're always open to discussion about any products on the market, but we do try to substantiate any failure issues, eh?
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11-14-2009, 11:13 AM
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Ultracolor plus?
Hi!
I would like to have your opinion,do you think that ultracolor is good for showers and countertops or should i stick to kerapoxy?
Thanx
chris from québec city
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11-14-2009, 11:17 AM
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da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
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I combined your new thread here, Chris. Please keep all your questions about this subject on this thread.
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11-14-2009, 04:02 PM
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50 visits and no reply...
Please i'd like your opinion...
Thanx anyway
chris
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11-15-2009, 09:05 AM
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Ultracolor plus?
Hi!
I'd like to have your opinion,is ultracolor good for showers and countertops?should i stick to kerapoxy...
Chris from québec city
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11-15-2009, 09:16 AM
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Countertop- food = epoxy.
Shower, c'est pas tre important. 
Gaite` avec coulis!
homme de gueuze-  (bonne chance)
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Gueuze - artistry and apathy
the best thing about the tile business is that every day in it knocks 2 days off your life expectancy
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L- eveling systems
G- reenskin
B- arwalt gripper wedges
T- 3 blade
It's not a lifestyle choice, I was born this way. Kinda sad, I know.....
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11-15-2009, 09:22 AM
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Thanx homme de gueuze
Do you mean gaité like happiness?
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11-15-2009, 10:33 AM
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da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
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Chris, I've once again combined your new thread here and will ask you one more time not to start new threads with the same question. Thanks.
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11-15-2009, 10:35 AM
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Yes- happy grtouting!
Sorry my French is tres mal.
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Gueuze - artistry and apathy
the best thing about the tile business is that every day in it knocks 2 days off your life expectancy
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L- eveling systems
G- reenskin
B- arwalt gripper wedges
T- 3 blade
It's not a lifestyle choice, I was born this way. Kinda sad, I know.....
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11-15-2009, 12:15 PM
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Hi Chris
What kind of problems are you having with the Kerapoxy? We just completed a glass tile job (bath walls, tub splash, ledge, face, step), and shower walls. Used 6 1 gallon units. It is a difficult grout to use, but bullet proof. We started using some epoxy sponges from Midwest Tools and it made all the difference in the world.
Regarding UltraColor. For dense porcelains, this has always been one of my favorite grouts. Combined with a good sealer, has proved to be a more economical choice over epoxy. However, there are environments that demand epoxy.
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11-15-2009, 03:07 PM
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Thank you john,
first of all we've known kera for a long time, we are 25 employees and some of us have over 30 years of experience so using and cleaning epoxy is not the problem. Lately we have had to go back to every job for holes and ''drippings'' which costs a lot of money. We contacted mapei canada and they said the recipe hasn't changed but the catalyst is not transparent like it use to be. Of course we're never gonna stop using it for grocery stores and restaurant kitchens but i don't see the point in using it for residential showers if ultra is flexible, waterproof, and anti-fungus. By the way this is no product bashing, we use only mapei products and their epoxy is still the best. Also isn't kerapoxy banned in nine states for health concerns?
Chris from québec city.
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11-15-2009, 04:51 PM
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Also isn't kerapoxy banned in nine states for health concerns?
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reallly is new mexico one of them 
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11-15-2009, 09:20 PM
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Hi Chris
We also had problems with pin holes. Fixed most of them as we went, but obviously didn't catch all of them all. Fortunately on my return trip I had color matched silicone caulk for all the perimeter corners and also used it for repairs of the pin holes.
UltraColor is not waterproof. None of the cement based grouts on the market are. This is where the use of surface applied waterproofing comes in handy (Schluter Kerdi, Noble Seal TS, Noble Wall, Hydroment UltraSet, Laticrete HydroBan, Laticrete 9235, Mapei HPG, etc.)
On the other points you mention, proper shower construction and maintenance is key to prevention.
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