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Old 10-29-2009, 09:42 PM   #1
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how to know travertine quality

We are planning to tile the main floor with 18x18 travertine floor. One store is offering us honed and filled Turkish Ivory color travertine for $2.79 sq ft. Is this a good quality travertine? It did not look shinning to me when I saw the tile in the store. The saleman told us that it will shine after installed and cleaned with water. Is this true? Should I look for a better deal elsewhere?

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Old 10-29-2009, 09:47 PM   #2
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You can usually get a good idea of the quality by how much of the stone is filled. Surely they'd let you wipe a few pieces off to check. You will be able to see a similar colored filler that will likely have a dull finish as compared to the rest of the stone. The only way water is going to help the finish is by removing any dust that might be present.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:34 PM   #3
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What Brad said, and I also look at the back to see the voids - if there are a lot stay away from this.

Here is a pic of a honed and polished job I finished last week - this was $11 sq/ft and I thought the quality was a little above average. I have seen much better Turkish trav.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:08 PM   #4
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I think I'm in the wrong business. Davestone and I need to buy a truck and start hauling travertine to your neck of the woods to sell

I have seen some travertine that was near perfect (no fill) for $6.00 at the most. The biggest piece of fill on most pieces when you saw it was about the size of a standard green pea (the vegetable).

Even then we purchased 3x or around 15,000 sq. ft. for a 5,000 sq. ft. job because the designer wanted to hand select every piece. Needless to say we were all charging by the hour.

I sold the leftover stone on two other jobs and had it put in my house as the homeowners nor the designer wanted it. Can't beat FREE stone
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:11 PM   #5
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Turkish travertine has always been good for me.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:18 PM   #6
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I wish I could say Turkish travertine has "always" worked for me but I find the country of origin doesn't play as big a factor. Just depends what they have in at the time.

I have seen junk and good material come out of everywhere. The near perfect travertine we bought 15,000 feet of came out of Italy. "near perfect" though is really a misconception when you talk about stone though, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:46 AM   #7
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I have friends that are Turkish and Lebanese who have a marble showroom/warehouse and they import & ship Travertine anywhere, they get Travertine from Turkey and it's always very good.
you see cheap stuff more often because customers are wanting low price and will buy the $2.00 a sq.ft. cheap stuff.
like an install, you get what you pay for.
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For my own bathroom I got some travertine Peru. Very nice stuff for four-something contractor's price -- probably around six bucks a foot retail.

I've installed nice Turkish travertine and garbage Turkish travertine. And I've seen travertine at Home Depot that contained more filler than travertine.

All travertine is going to have some filler, though. It's the nature of the beast.
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I have found this helpfull, from an online website. Hope it helps.



About Our Travertine Tiles and Travertine Flooring:


There are many qualities of travertine tiles, and the industry does not practice a uniform grading system. Smaller quarries sometimes produce travertine tiles with a poor quality while other quarries produce travertine tiles in large reliable factories. Travertine tiles from stonetiledepot.com are supplied by the world’s best quarries.



What Should One Look for When Buying Travertine Tiles?



When buying travertine tiles, one should look at the amount of holes, the size of the holes, the percentage of holes as well as for a uniform and even honing (which is similar to a fine sanding process). All of the travertine tiles carried by stonetiledepot.com meet these quality standards, and all of our travertine tiles are properly graded and quality controlled. One should also look for uniformity in veining and consistency in the background color. Finally, the fill color (which is white cement with a special epoxy mix and color dye) must match the background color and must be dried properly to make sure the fill color and the tile color match. We ship our travertine tiles to all major U.S. cities including Los Angeles, New York, Miami, Las Vegas, Orlando, San Francisco and Chicago.



Where Can One Use Travertine Tiles?



Travertine tiles can be used in a variety of residential and commercial applications, such as for kitchen walls and flooring, bathroom walls and flooring, as well as for backsplashes, countertops, countertop edge trim, and entrance flooring. Travertine tiles can also be used for commercial applications such as hotel flooring, hotel bathroom tiling, and hotel bathroom stone countertops. Natural stone flooring can be used in even the most demanding applications as long as proper stone flooring material is selected and applied.



What Should One Look for in Quality Travertine Tiles?



Travertine tile and travertine flooring should have the following characteristics:



•A good uniform color selection of travertine flooring material should be used. It is important to dry lay the whole shipment to achieve a uniform consistency and blend of colors throughout the entire floor prior to installation. This will prevent unattractive or unwanted pieces although less desirable pieces can be used for cuts and in less visible areas of the application.


•Pieces should be free of visual defects such as pits (except in some stones where pitting is considered natural and must be properly filled), major cracks, and major open veins (i.e. a natural vein that is not filled).


•If the travertine tiling is filled, one should achieve a good color for the fill that matches the background tile color.


•The amount and size of natural cavities in travertine tiling is important. In general, top quality travertine tile should not make up more than 30% of the tile surface. Also, the size of the holes should not be larger than a quarter.


•Travertine tiles must have a uniform, even surface as a result of professional honing (which is similar to machine sanding), and all of the tiles must have the same thickness and sizing. All of stone tiles we carry are manufactured at first grade factories with proper processing machinery.


•Professional packing should be used so that pieces are stacked with polished face to polished face to prevent scratching. The pieces should not be laid flat. In general, all stone flooring shipments must be prepared so that the natural stone tiles and travertine flooring stand up on a pallet. The shipping pallet must be of good quality, and the travertine flooring must be securely strapped to the pallet in a perpendicular fashion. All of the natural stone tile and countertop pieces sold by stonetiledepot.com meet these requirements.


Care and Maintenance for Travertine Tiles and Travertine Flooring:


It is extremely easy to care for and maintain travertine flooring. We recommend taking the following simple precautions:



1. Be sure to select the right type of natural stone for your home.

2. Be sure to follow instructions by your stone care provider. We recommend Miracle Sealants, which provides excellent help and support through its web site: www.miraclesealants.com.

3. We recommend all natural stone to be sealed immediately after installation and initial cleaning.

4. For your everyday residential use, basic cleaning with warm water and cloth should be more than enough to maintain your travertine tile and travertine flooring. Spills should be wiped off quickly, and heavy staining can be treated by using professional cleaning products available from Miracle Sealants.

5. Enjoy the investment in natural stone for many years to come!



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Old 10-30-2009, 03:19 PM   #10
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Travertine comes from many parts of the world these days. Turkish travertine is # 1 in sales. It is classified into 3 quality groups; Commercial, Standard, and Select. Guess which grade is the easiest to find here? That's right, Commercial because it's the cheapest.

As far as I know the grading is also kind of a voluntary self regulated thing. There are companies you can hire to inspect the stone grades before they are shipped.

The other things that go into the value of the product is color, size, pattern, finish treatment etc. You can figure that anything about $4 or so wholesale is either commercial or a slow selling plentiful or overstocked standard grade. If you want high quality and consistent coloration, you need to purchase "Select" grade.

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