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Old 05-20-2009, 12:20 PM   #1
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How thin can I mud a wall?

This may be a bit of a stupid question, but I am wondering how thin I can apply mud to a cement wall to even out any holes? Is mud even the best material to use over concrete?

Please don't let the fact that this is a jacuzzi wall deter you from giving me an answer that applies to a shower wall Basically, I chipped away old plaster and some rust stains that I will patch with concrete. However, the walls, seats, and floor are heavily pock-marked from the chipping and I want to add a layer of mud to even and straighten them out. On two of the walls, I will have my 1" glass tiles butt up against my waterline tile, which is a little thicker. I want to make up the difference in thickness with mud as well, but not have the glass tile sit higher in the end due to the mud bed. Since these two walls are contiguous with the pool wall, I also cannot raise the waterline tile mud bed much, if at all.
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:25 PM   #2
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You talking little holes that need filled or do you need to correct some plumb issue? out of plane issue?
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:30 PM   #3
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The holes that are up to 1/2" or so deep, and I don't think that there are any issues with out of plumb or not straight on the two walls where I have the thickness restriction. The surface of the wall looks like a moonscape, basically. Chipping off the plaster has left many holes from the chisel, but they are not very deep.

On the seats and stairs as well as the two walls separating the jacuzzi from the pool, I could add some amount of thickness without the complication of the waterline to glass tile transition.
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Old 05-20-2009, 03:56 PM   #4
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This is the gunite face or the already mudded face,if it's gunite the fat mud won't have a problem sticking,if it's smooth plastered mud the new mud won't stick and you need to use a slurry of wet portland scratched into the surface with a stiff brush before adding mud.)i'm assuming this is underwater and bonding agent will not workIf it's the pock marks you are talking about just filling i would use medium thinset.
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:34 PM   #5
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Yes, it's the bare gunite wall. I am thinking that I will need to add maybe a 1/8" to a 1/4" of thickness.

Bonding agent = "milk"? And don't use it for under water applications?
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:49 PM   #6
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Done & thank you!!!

Well, in the short span of 11 months I have gone from this:


to this:




None of the walls in that %$*%@* hole were straight, but it all turned out OK!

Thanks for all the help as always!
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