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Old 01-04-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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Mixing Partial Batch Versabond

I bought the 50 lb bag of Versabond from Home Depot today. I need to roughly cover 35 sq. feet this weekend and 50 sq. feet next weekend. I was hoping to use the same bag for both jobs.

The only directions the bag had was to mix the entire 50 lb bag with 6 quarts of water. Does any one have a good breakdown of how many parts of versabond to water I should mix to create a partial mixture?

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:06 PM   #2
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Pour about two inches of water in a 5 gallon bucket and slowly add the morter while mixing. Work it up to a creamy "peanut butter" consistancy. Let it sit (slake) for about ten minutes and mix it up some more. If you need to add powder or water to get that creamy consistancy, now is the time to do it.

On the other hand, you could always toss in 3 quarts of water and just start adding powder until that scale you pulled outa your wife's bathroom reads 25 lbs.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:08 PM   #3
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Do you have an accurate way of measuring weight? If you take the standard ratio (50 lb bag, 6 quarts water), its 800 oz of thinset mix to 192 oz of water. So the ratio of thinset to water works out as 800/192, or about 4 oz of thinset to 1 oz of water.

If you can measure weight down to say a half lb, you can make smaller amounts of thinset.

I was in the same position as you......didnt want to waste a bag for a small area. All I did was mix the thinset to a decent consistency (I was using it to screed an area level, instead of actually laying tile). I guesstimated pouring half a bag into 3 qts of water, mixed it and took it from there. Rather have too little water and add more, because you cant take out extra water later
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:09 PM   #4
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Genius

The bathroom scale! I love that! That's genius!
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:10 PM   #5
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Hi Rick.... and welcome to

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Would seem to me that if the instructions on your thinset bag call for 6 quarts of water for a full 50' bag..... then......

1/2 a bag (25') of thinset would need 3 quarts of water...
1/3 a bag (16.5') of thinset would need 2 quarts of water and....
1/4 a bag (12,5/) of thinset would need 1.5 quarts of water.

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:14 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone! All great posts! I appreciate everyone's help!
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:16 PM   #7
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A quick reality check, Rick:

Sounds like you're doing a floor? And as your trowel notch size determines how far a bag will go, you may or may not have enough thinset for both jobs. Typically, a 1/4" x 3/8" x 1/4" trowel is used for 12" tiles and a bag will only go about 65 sq/ft. Can you tell us if you're doing a floor or wall...and some info on the tile?

I was going to give you some guidelines on mixing, but the others seem to have you covered.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:26 PM   #8
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I'm doing a floor with 12x12 ceramic tiles (1/4x3/8x1/4).

I think I'll be a little short for the other bathroom next week, but hopefully i'll have enough today mixing half the bag.
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If this is your first time at tiling, Rick.... consider starting with a 1/4 bag mixed the way Tonto originally suggested.... Kinda’ like Laz suggests. Go for creamy peanut butter consistency.

Reason being..... 25' of thinset might be a bit much for a new tiller to start with leading to a bit of waste.

Best of luck to you and.... let us know how it goes.
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This was my first attempt doing floor tiling. I just finished grouting. Hopefully everything will turn out ok tomorrow morning!

Thanks again for everyone's help!
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:41 PM   #11
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you may need another bag,

im philly rick too!
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:08 PM   #12
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partial mix ratios

This thread is a bit old, but since I've gone through the trouble of measuring out the dry volume cup by cup maybe I can save someone Googling 'versabond partial mix ratio' fifteen minutes of annoyance:


~61 dry measure cups per 50 lb. bag
6 quarts (192 ounces) H20 per bag


Therefore, use roughly 3 ounces of cold water for every one dry measure cup and you can mix whatever size batch that you like. If you cannot get it to a peanut butter consistency, add a smidge (it's a technical term) more water and mix again.

Also, remember to wash the cup when you are done or your lady may kick you in a place that is only meant to be treated very gently.

Cheers.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:00 PM   #13
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I think that you would be safer to buy a dedicated thinset measuring cup. At least in my house you would.
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Weighing the bag on a bathroom scale is a whole lot easier. I can't even imagine measuring thinset a cup or even two at a time.
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Sean, I just wanted to say thanks for having taken the time to measure the number of dry cups in a 50lb bag of Versabond. I needed to mix up a small batch the other day and the 3 ozs of water to 1 cup of Versabond ratio worked great!

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