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Old 09-28-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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Question Ditra vs. hardibacker

Need to replace porcelain tile on kitchen floor. Any reasons why I should use Ditra vs. Hardibacker or vice versa? What is the thickness of Ditra or is it available in more than 1 thickness? Thanks.
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Old 09-28-2008, 08:49 AM   #2
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Ditra is lighter and more expensive than Hardibacker. Both do an excellent job as a tile underlayment, when installed according to their manufacturer's instructions. Use Ditra if carrying backerboard home from the store and into your house is more work than you want to do, or if you have a problem floor (joists 24" apart, for example). Use Hardibacker if your budget is limited.

Regular Ditra is about 1/8" thick when installed, Ditra XL is closer to 1/4" installed.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:19 AM   #3
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Like Bob said, the Ditra is more expensive but is easier to install which saves in labor. The Backerboard will need thinset under it, nailed down and the jonts taped. The Ditra just needs to be thinsetted down.

I've installed both and have found it hard to keep the Backerboard away from the freshly painted base and door jambs. The Ditra doesn't bang up the paint near as bad, especially in tight places where a doorjamb is close to a cabinet toe kick and the piece needs to slide under.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:40 PM   #4
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Hardiebacker is HEAVYYYYY and a PITA to cut. I say go with Ditra.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:10 PM   #5
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if you think hardibacker is heavy dont try to carry wonderboard
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Old 09-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #6
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as others have said, hardibacker is heavier and not as easy to cut. The other nice thing about DensShield is it has a vapor barrier , which hardibacker does not. I usually charge more to install hardibacker, cause it's a pitb!
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The other nice thing about DensShield is it has a vapor barrier
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How does DensShield® tile backer compare with cement board?

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DensShield Tile Backer has a built-in moisture barrier and therefore does not require a secondary moisture barrier. Cement board does not have a built-in moisture barrier and may require a secondary moisture barrier. In addition, DensShield has a considerable weight advantage over cement backers. It's 30% lighter than the leading cement board brands (1/2" comparison). That makes DensShield easier to handle on the job site and faster to install.
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Ditra verses Hardie, how did DensShield find it's way into this fight?
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I guess DensShield is heavier then Ditra but not as heavy as Hardi.

so it will be a 3rd choice ?
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ditra all the way.
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The other nice thing about DensShield is it has a vapor barrier
I don't believe that to be the case. Moisture barrier, yes; vapor barrier, no.



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