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Old 06-17-2003, 09:58 AM   #1
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Removing pencil and other marks

I've asked this question on the stone forum and no one really seems to have an answer yet, so I thought I'd ask here.
What's the best way to remove pencil marks from natural stone like marble, travertine, limestone.... you know... those lines and x marks that installers are so famous for leaving on the stone? And while I'm asking... what's the best way to remove metallic marks from tools?
I can usually polish these marks away with no problem, but is there an easier way?
I have also had trouble removing these marks from porcelain tile. My sister's installer used green felt marker on her polished marble in her bathroom... still can't get those marks out 100%.
What is the the best thing to use when marking your cuts on stone/tile?
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:27 PM   #2
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Always keeping us on our toes Karen

Pencil marks have been a nightmare in the decorative concrete industry since it began. Framers, HVAC, fire sprinkler pipers…just about any and all trades that see a nice clean slab of concrete seem to want to leave their mark. Pencil, red chalk lines (love it when they spray lacquer on the line to preserve it) and spray paint. I have seen jobs (all from your crazy state) where folks just sealed the bare concrete with all the “artwork”, they say they like the industrial look, I think they just couldn’t get it clean.

Sanding is the only surefire way to remove pencil every time.

Eraser (use duct tape first to remove excess to prevent spreading. They have clear duct tape now, does not matter, but cool none the less)
Hair Spray (spray and scrub with water-hair spray sticks to the pencil and gums up when hit with water)
Acid (if possible)
Ammonia & Peroxide (soak with ammonia then hit with a few drops of peroxide)
Poultice with neutral cleaner

Metallic marks? When you can use it, a little acid usually does just fine, along with a green/red/white pad.

Hey Andy, how about a cool laser guide on a Felker, just like them newer mitre saws?
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:24 PM   #3
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Hi Karen,

Tim gave the same anser as everyone else. I didn't answer there because the answer had already been given.

1) Eraser-may or may not work.

2) Everyones sure fire remedy, hairspray, goop, toothpaste, acetone, etc.

3) Mechanical sanding.

Sorry there is not one good answer.

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Old 06-17-2003, 05:20 PM   #4
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I have a remedy for the whole mess. We'll never be able to employ it, though. Eliminate all those bozos who put marks on the face of stone tiles (and Saltillo tiles, and terracotta, and quarry tiles). Run 'em out of town.

I do make marks on porcelain and other glazed tiles. Simply rub over the mark with a bit of grout, sanded or unsanded. Works every time. Also works for removing tool marks from bath tubs, but don't let the boss know I said that.
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Old 06-17-2003, 07:09 PM   #5
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I dont have a clue but doesn't WD-40 remove about anything?
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Old 06-18-2003, 04:29 PM   #6
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Karen:
WHAT DID I TELL YA? ...
The only sure thing is to hone and repolish.
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Old 06-18-2003, 04:44 PM   #7
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Thanks Maurizio.... I was hoping that installers might have a remedy we hadn't thought of. I may try some of the suggestions, but hone/polish works every time. The WD-40 sounds interesting, but then you have to get the WD-40 stain out, LOL! Don't really want to go there...
Thanks everyone for your input.
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Old 06-18-2003, 11:05 PM   #8
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For removing marks on porcelain or glazed tile, Cameo aluminum polish has always worked well for me. I haven't tried it on natural stone yet as it seems that it would scratch the softer stuff.

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Old 06-19-2003, 12:09 AM   #9
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I heard carwax works on tile /porcelain. Don't know about stone. Never tried it before. Anyone have some Carwax hanging around?
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