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Old 05-29-2008, 11:32 PM   #1
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Red face Curb-free shower

My husband saw this glorious shower on HGTV that he wants to build in our basement. I was busy with the baby and didn't actually see it, but from what he is descibing, it sounds like three walls but no curb. The whole bathroom floor is tiled, and the center of the "shower area" has a drain.

Someone, anyone...please tell me if this is a crazy idea for a "modest, middle class" home. I don't want one of those cheesy, tiny 36in x 36in fiberglass deals...but I'm thinking this kind of project would run $4-6K and would require ADVANCED tile skills.

Any advice???
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:46 AM   #2
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it can be done, just how much you want to go through a pay is up to you.

http://www.johnbridge.com/accessible_showers.htm

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...5&postcount=47

this is one I just did a few months ago:


do a search for "curbless showers" and some threads will show up on this.
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Old 05-30-2008, 03:46 AM   #3
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cag715,

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You will probanly want a shower drain and then an optional floor drain.
Look into water proofing membranes.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:09 AM   #4
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Thanks for your quick responses. I guess my concern is whether this is something that a DIY-er can do themselves or not. My husband is capable, and we have done lots of research on tools (like the Shower Floor Liner from Dix Systems) to help build the floor so that it slopes the correct amount so that it will drain, but I'm not sure I would consider him an "experienced" tile man.

Since you guys have done these types of installations many times, would you encourage a DIY-er to try this type of installation???

I did check out the ADA shower article. Thanks! It was very informative, and I think that if we do try to do one, we will likely have to do something similar to the hump entry.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:28 AM   #5
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the Dix Systems shower pan and Quick pitch system is made to be used with a curbed shower. I'm sure it might be able to be modified and used with a curbless but there are other ways of doing this.

th Moderator "muskymike" did a nice curbless shower and has a thread about it, I cant find it. maybe he can post the link for you.
it will probably be something that will suit you.
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Hi there, welcome! Gotta first name we can use? Here's the thread. Handicap Shower
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:14 AM   #7
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Sorry...first name is Ceci...

So, I followed through your post and pics...it didn't appear too difficult to transition from the 12x12 to the 2x2s. I'm assuming there's a "hump" that is not overly obvious in the photos. Could you do this in a concrete floor basement application? We are going to be turning a large laundry room into a small walk through laundry that goes into a large master bath. That's where we want the curb-free/handicap shower...I'd really love a large corner jetted tub with a half wall surround for a shower at one end...but we have other things to do with our budget...sigh...
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Could you do this in a concrete floor basement application?
without being able to depress and area lower then the main floor you cant have an actual roll in or curbless shower.
the main area will have to be built up or shower area lower.

like in my picture in my post above the bathroom was a 3" mud bed and the shower I made lower.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:39 AM   #9
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Put another way, unless there is a ramp to get up into the bathroom, and since the water flows downhill, the best way to do this is to recess the entire bathroom, then slope the floor area so water from the shower will flow to the drain. It's much easier to do if it was built for this purpose, but yes, it can be done. If it was on the first or second floor, you'd recess the area where the shower would be so it could taper from the room floor to the drain. On a slab, you either have to build the whole floor up to have the depression, or tear out the concrete slab in the area, and put in a new one, lower.

If the room is very large, you could build a ramp up into the main part, have that basically level, then taper back down for the shower area. You need probably a couple of inches buildup in order to get the proper slope, depending on the size of the shower.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:58 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone. We have decided to go the less-stress route and to compromise and go with a low curb instead. In our next home, (I don't know when and where that will happen) I am pretty sure he's going to do the curbless. I'll blame Divine Design on HGTV for this little jaunt here, but finding this site was a blessing anyways.
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