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Old 05-28-2008, 05:39 AM   #1
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Advice on wet/look sealer for slate?

Has anyone heard of, or know where to get Dunn Edwards Perma-Shield wet/look sealer? We were at a stone show room and they had their slate on the floor sealed with it, it was incrediable looking and they told me it had been on the floor for 5 yrs. With all that traffic we were impressed. We have tried two different types on our patio and they wear off to quick. Any suggestions for a top quality product out there?

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Old 05-28-2008, 08:23 PM   #2
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The TYW Store has links to StoneTech. I used their enhancing sealer on some granite, and was happy...their products are top quality. See what they have.
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If your slate is outside (you mentioned it was installed on a patio) - a topical product might not be what you would be looking for anyway.

Topical ("wet look") products do not do well outside and most of them would also specify that they are not intended for use on installations that might be subject to moisture. As a rule too - and as you have found out - topical sealers do not do well on floors. They wear off easily because they are on the surface of the tile and quite frankly, they were not designed for high traffic areas either.

Depending on the type of slate you have, you might want to consider an impregnating enhancing sealer. Do you have the fully metamorphosed slate (blueish gray, green or brown and very hard) or do you have the shale like stone (multi colored, pretty, could be glittery and most likely softer and flakier) that is more widely available? The fully metamorphosed stone will not respond well to an impregnating sealer either, since it is very dense and has a low absorption rate.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:30 AM   #4
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Thank-you for the very informative response.

I believe have the shale like stone (multi colored, pretty, could be glittery and most likely softer and flakier) that is more widely available and less expensive? Funny, the wet look sealer from Home Depot they claimed it would work outside and last, as you mentioned did not work or last long.

I live in Southern California and my patio is covered and blocked by two walls. With that said, it does recieve sun light and I wash & hose it down when we spill beer on it..... .......... We do not get much rain here at all.

By reading your response, it looks like I could use an impregnating enhancing sealer. Do you know or have one you prefer. The money is something we are not worried about being its extra work to move all the furniture off and apply 3 coats and not be able to use the patio. ( We do live in So Cal LOL )

Thx in advance for you help.

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Ken,

Try the TYW Store for the StoneTech enhancing sealer as Jim suggested.

The topical stuff will have to be totally stripped from the floor before the enhancer is applied.

**And test the sealer before applying it to see if the results are what you desired! Removing an impregnating enhancer is pretty much impossible**
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Even sealed, some of those so-called slate tiles are little more than compressed mud. Because they are soft, sliding a chair across it could easily scratch or gouge it. If you mop it, your mop water will take on the color of the stone. A sealer won't make it harder, but will help it from turning to mud as quickly.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:45 PM   #7
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dunn edward permashield

i was interested in the dunn edward's permashield as well, so i call DE tech support and discovered that the permashield product they carry is not manufactured by them, but is sold in their stores. it is made by monopole and is actually a sealer for anti-graffiti application. interesting that they would use it on a slate floor. see - http://www.monopoleinc.com/beta/pdf/5350.pdf
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