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Old 04-10-2008, 03:04 PM   #1
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bisazza own grout

Bisazza over here in UK have started including as standard an own brand epoxy grout with their mosaics (increased price obviously). Its in the colour of their chosing, aiming to coordinate with the mosaic colour. Anyone used it yet and if so how does it work? No problem with doing the poxy (well its not first choice, is it people?) but any clues as to this ones specific usability would be a help.
Now the hard bit - to work out a deal with the contractor because the price didnt allow for epoxy!

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Old 04-10-2008, 08:02 PM   #2
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It's similar to Spectralock but a little harder to use-cleans up about the same if I remember correctly but stiffer, more work pushing it into the joints. These are the only two epoxy grouts I've used so I can't compare further, sorry!
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for your experience of it Matt - sounds not toooo bad. I'm going to do a test piece on a sample board over the weekend with a bright green Bisazza grout that a previous client didnt want to use anyway, so I'll see how it goes.

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Old 04-17-2008, 11:23 AM   #4
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Well for anyone who's interested the test went well - it is pretty usual epoxy experience to apply, but the liquid cleaner they supply does break down the excess very well, without disturbing the grout in the joint. The wipe overs with sponge after that was no trouble and all in all the 'gel' grout looks good. Will be doing the main work with it next week so will let you know if anythings goes amiss!

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Old 06-16-2008, 01:09 PM   #5
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Difficult to work with

HI,
Yes, i'm a designer in the US and i bought the bisazza jell (epoxy grout)
my contractor said it was very difficult to work with (it took him 2 and 1/2 days instead of a couple of hours)
However it dries rather quickly and gives a final result that is very nice and strong (almost glasslike)
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:46 PM   #6
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Welcome, Sandrine. Please give us a first name to use.

Colin: How'd your glass project trun out with the new pookey?

Does Biazza still recommend against using epoxy grouts in general?
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:54 PM   #7
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Hey - it's never toooo late to answer right??!
Apologies - been absent as busy with tile life...

The epoxy went fine. I do have much past experience with the stuff, but now the new generation ones have come about.

Bisazza in Europe are supplying their epoxy ( and fixing kits etc) and recommend that it is used.
As I have written up previously, and also on a UK tile forum, it is certainly going to be a larger part of tile work in the future for sure, and advise / specify it myself for where I know it will benefit a part of a job.

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Can we get some of that grout on this side of the pond to play with?
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I have an extra unit in my work truck if you want it....The only difference I noticed with the Bisazza Gel is that it's a little gritty for most epoxy, and if you can't get all the grit off the glass you can certainly feel it. I assume that the grit is sand, but it's really fine. The epoxy I had matched the glass almost exactly, so it was kind of hard to tell if you had a residue or not without touching it. I noticed that the Gel was actually pretty easy to spread, and had at least an hour of working time before it started to harden.....
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Great, Can you send it down? I'll gladly pay shipping.
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I hope you like teal grout, cuz that's the color....Don't remember the official name, but it was a teal tint....also had to use the red color too.....red glass with red epoxy It was UGLY....
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its just for experimenting , don't mind the color
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:26 PM   #13
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Since this thread is already started I will not start a new one , even if it appears to be pretty old.

Ok , I got a small job with Bisazza mosaic and the epoxy grout ---'' gel''--- came with it , regardless of my or client's choice.

Can someone tell me why it is inclueded with their mosaic tile ? Are Kerapoxy or Spectralock not recommended for their Mosaic ?

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i had a job using this grout a while ago and doing some research found they had had a few problems with it and the NZ supplier admitted that it discoloured in direct sunlight
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:45 AM   #15
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that it discoloured in direct sunlight
Jim ,

This is a common problem with epoxy . The cemented grouts also suffer from discoloration when expose to outside conditions.I find that Concrete color is the most stable in those conditions.
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But the job I was talking about is inside . If someone else have more informations about why Bisazza sells their own epoxy with the mosaic , I would appreciated.
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