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Old 12-07-2007, 11:41 AM   #1
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Jays Bath Remodel

Afternoon everyone,

Been a long time looker finally decided to post
Experienced enough to be dangerous lol but, remodeling my bathroom last few months and have everything layed out accordingly.

Going to be using the Rialto Beige tile from Lowes, the 4x4 for the shower and walls and the 6x6 for the floor. Mix in some accents tiles but thats pretty much it. I noticed the tiles have the chamfered edges and no built in "spacer", has anyone used spacers or just directly butted them up to each other.

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Old 12-07-2007, 12:28 PM   #2
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Jay,

You need a grout joint between tiles. The size is up to you but I think with small tiles like that you may want to shoot for 1/8" on the floor and maybe 1/16" in the shower, but remember the smaller the grout joint the more difficult it becomes to install properly. I don't think 1/8" would look bad in the shower. Lowe's sells all kinds of spacers. I've been using some made by Tavy. Some don't like them because you can't see the corner underneath them.

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Old 12-07-2007, 01:50 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply;

I understand there has to be a grout joint but, if the tiles are butting against each other there is less then a 16th of a gap. There is more of a gap on the top edge due to the chamfer, the lower edge of the tile is less then a 16th.

Just looking to see what some of you have tried and liked
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #4
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Unless the grout gets between the tile, it will flake out if you end up only filling the champhered notch. Shoot for a 1/16'th of so gap...the grout will look wider assuming you fill it to be level with the top of the tile.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:34 PM   #5
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Vapor Barrier

Hello everyone,

Back again for another question. I can't tell you the wealth of information that is available from everybody, much appreciated. Did a filtered search on all subject here but;

Would everyone consider Kraft faced insulation on a outside wall in a shower,
a proper vapor barrier?

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Old 01-02-2008, 02:43 PM   #6
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Hi J - welcome!

Nope.

I'd make a bunch of slits in that paper and then put up 6 mil plastic around all of the walls of your shower. Or 15# building felt.

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Old 01-02-2008, 04:07 PM   #7
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Welcome, Jay. Please don't start a new thread for each new question about your project. It helps our helpers if you keep it all on one thread so they can see the history and what's been asked and answered. Bookmark this one so you can always find it again. It'll never get too old to rise to the top of the queue with each new post. We can change the name to something more generic if you like.

What Michele said.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:59 AM   #8
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Ahhh sorry about that, could you rename the title then to Jays Bath Remodel for me? Thanks.

Back to the question at hand, I have a major dilemma then. As you can see from the picture, I have uhhh prematurely started taping some of the Hardi seams. I have yet to put the top pieces in so, the time to act is now lol. As I see it, I have a few choices but would like to hear your input. Off the top of my head I could;





A) easy= Buy a crap load of Redguard and waterproof every board.
B) hard= destroy both pieces, hang the plastic and buy 2 new boards
c) Insert alternatives here Money is not an object, its needs to be right or not at all with me.

This is a bath/shower type of install, so take that into account. The walls will not get as wet as a shower would.
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With that ledge you've built at the back, I see no option at all for you, Jay. You really need to waterproof the inside of those walls completely, paying special attention to that ledge area, which we hope is sloped to the drain.

A tub/shower is still a shower and needs to be treated accordingly. Water don't care why it's going where it goes, eh?

My opinion; worth price charged.

Another housekeeping request: Please keep your photo size down to about 800pixels wide to keep from making the page so wide some folks hafta scroll back and forth to read your text or see all the picher, eh?
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Done

Yea the ledge was a forced issue. My wife complained that she didn't want a soap dish or clutter, or a puddle of water where the ledge is now, if I didn't make the ledge. It is sloped about 2-3 degrees down but its there to stay.

So, Kerdi or Redguard it?
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Appreciate you fixin' that picher.

Yes, Kerdi or RedGard or Laticrete 9235 or NobleSeal or any of a number of other liquid-applied or sheet membranes applied per manufacturer's instructions. Something to make all the water all go to the drain.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:39 AM   #12
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Ok then, which option would you prefer if YOU were doing it
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That Laticrete looks like it's more work then the Kerdi install lol.
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You're catchin' on.

Laticrete has a newer product that they say doesn't require all the reinforcing and such, but I'd still go with the sheet membrane.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #15
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Agreed, thanks for the input. Looks like another order for Tile Experts
(Ditra for the floor)
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