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Old 06-18-2007, 10:14 AM   #1
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space between thinset and tub

Hi,

I'm putting down 12x12 tiles in a bathroom (first tile job ever).

Does anyone have a good approach to tie a tile floor to a ceramic bathtub? I was thinking of putting a thin piece of plastic between the tub and the thinset, then setting the tile up to 3/8" from the tub and then sliding the plastic out. I would then squeeze in a generous helping of kitchen and bath sealer (GE).

Should I grout using the same method? Should I fill in the 3/8" space with mud then cover with a bead of sealer?

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:26 PM   #2
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Hi Rich, set the tiles an 1/8" away from the tub and caulk it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:48 PM   #3
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HI Rich- I use a spacer between the tub and the first tile next to it. BUT --- I turn the spacer on the flat side so that it is 1/8 from the tub. Also- remember that with caulk, you will end up sweeping away MOST of it with your dampened finger so that a very small amount is visible...basically like a grout line but with caulk. Hope that makes sense.

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Old 06-19-2007, 03:08 PM   #4
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Thanks!

Thanks, Mike and Memmy! I like the idea of the spacer on its side... very clever.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:25 PM   #5
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Last minute advice on setting the tile

Hi,

I've posted a bunch of different threads, and gotten great advice to get me to the point of actually mixing mud and dropping tile. My first job, so I want to be sure to get it right.

The job:

12x12x1/4 porcelin PEI 5 rated tiles on 1/4" hardibacker using Ultraflex 2 modified thinset with a 1/4" notched trowel
Here are my remaining questions:

1.) how hard do I press on the tile? Is the idea to press it as hard as I can, or to have the square floating on top of a thin layer of mortar? If it is, in fact floating, then how do I ensure that the adjoining tiles are level with each other? I do have a "tile puck" style level.

2.) if I have mortar squish up between tiles, do I remove that immediately and, if so, how?

3.) I have been advised to have a rubber mallet and wood block handy... how are those used?

I have (from years ago) a how-to-set-tile video called "Tiling 1-2-3" from THD. Everything looks like a breeze, and my experience so far is that it is very much the opposite. I'm happy with my results so far, but here is where the tile meets the road, so any warnings, caveats, etc... would be very much appreciated.

Again, Thanks in advance.

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Old 06-19-2007, 04:26 PM   #6
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Hi Rich, you don't need to be pressing too hard. I would flat the back sides of the tiles with the trowel, with thinset as you set. You can use a small piece of wood to remove any squishies that occur. The block and mallet is to be used to tap the tiles to set them into the mud.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:29 PM   #7
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With that sized tile, I would go to a 3/8 trowell. Don't beat the hell out of the tile....mix the thinset only to the consistancy where it won't "slump" when you comb it out. You can LIGHTLY dampen the backs of the tile as you set it and gently lay it in place. Trust this...it'll set, and you shouldn't have to fiddle much with them if the floor is truly flat, as you say.

Yes, a "beating block" can be used, but I find a level far better in most cases. Treat the tile gently, like a woman!!!
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:33 PM   #8
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I use the Tavy Puck and it's quite good........course you can do the same thing with a small bucket half full of water. Check constantly for "lippage" and adjust as needed. This is where the mallet comes in although I just "bop" them with my fist......

Clean the morter as you set the tile. Popsicle sticks work great for this, but any thing that you can fit in the joint will suffice.
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:11 PM   #9
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Thanks, and I'm diving in.

Mike and Laz,

Thanks a million, guys. Laz, when you say "dampen" , do you mean like Mike says, to flat the back with mud... or dampen with water?

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Old 06-20-2007, 01:15 AM   #10
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Generally best to "burn" the tile in with thinset....that is, put a skim coat on the back with the flat side of your trowell.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:27 AM   #11
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I cut off a corner of one of my sponges (so it is triangular shaped) to swipe up any thin set that smooshes up between the tiles. Keeps everything very clean.

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Old 06-20-2007, 11:11 AM   #12
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When can I walk on my tile floor?

Hi,

I just tiled a small 2nd floor bathroom using Ultraflex 2 with 12x12x1/4 porcelin tile. I set the last piece last night at 10p.m. How long before I can set foot on it? How long before I can grout?

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Old 06-20-2007, 12:04 PM   #13
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Light traffic and grout after 24 hours Rich.
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:09 PM   #14
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Rich - saw your question & since no-ones answered thought I should - cant be v specific ( from UK ) about the adhesive, but following what it says on the bag should be your guide.

In general though if it is not a rapid setting cementitious adhesive then its going to need 24 hours min before walking on at all - and then only light use at first for 2 to 3 days. Grout after 24 hours.

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Old 06-20-2007, 12:43 PM   #15
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Realistically 12 hrs. The bags say 24 but 12 is fine unless your on vinyl, then your on your own.
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