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Old 06-09-2007, 09:15 AM   #1
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Laticrete grout problem

I bought all the materials at the "L" big box store and had a tile guy lay about 225 ft in a hallway and two bathrooms. I bought two bags of mocha grout by Laticrete. The first and part of the second bag were used for the field tile, and to my disgust, the grout turned out cement grey, nothing like mocha. The tile guy later laid several more tiles under each door to butt up against the carpet, using grout from the bottom part of the second bag. It turned out dark greyish brown, which was juxtaposed with the light cement grey. It looks horrible. Laticrete has washed their hands of the problem, saying they can't guarantee their colors. "L" big box store is trying to solve the problem and asked me to get ideas and quotes from tile professionals. The only guy who is interested in the job suggested staining the grout with an epoxy stain/coating at a cost of $800. He has never done this before, however. I really don't want to rip everying out, and wouldn't mind staining the grout if that's a reasonable solution. I'm looking for advice and suggestions. Other than to never buy Laticrete products, of course. I already learned that.
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Old 06-09-2007, 09:22 AM   #2
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Hi Dan, epoxy stain works pretty good. I've rescued quite a few jobs with it. The stained grout will be a little more pronounced than unstained grout but will hold it's color and last a long time.
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Old 06-09-2007, 09:39 AM   #3
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Thanks Michael. I'll attempt to attach a picture of the problem.
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:41 AM   #4
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Had a very similar experience with the same grout and color recently. Did not use the admix when mixing the grout as the customer provided all materials and was too cheap to spring for it! Also was not informed until after the fact about the exceedingly high silica content in the well water. End result was a whole lot of efflorescence and some really ugly looking grout. Was able to remove deposits with a mild acid wash / cleaning. The grout was considerably lighter in color than the sample when done but nice and even in color. Customer was still not happy so we tried to "enhance" the grout with no success. Acquired some of this: http://www.colorfastind.com/products/groutcolorant.htm
and the homeowner applied. Funny thing was that the grout colorant was exactly the same color as the recently cleaned up grout! Not even close to the laticrete sample color. Looks great though. Took a couple of hours for a total newb to apply and she did a really nice, thorough job of it (165 s/f 13 x 13 tile). One tip - throw that stupid brush they send with the kit in the garbage and get a toothbrush. Cut it down width wise if needed to match the grout joint width. pour some colorant into a dish and dip the toothbrush and apply to grout, kind of scrubbing colorant into surface. Keep a rag with you and carefully wipe any excess off the tile edge as you go before colorant sets up. Good luck!
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:53 AM   #5
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I know this is an old thread, but I want to add a "Me Too!" warning for this color in case someone is considering using it in the future. I used the Laticrete Admix with Mocha, and the dryed grout turned out gray, just like the picture above and NOWHERE near the Laticrete color chart. When it is wet, it is dark and on color, but it dries totally different. Instructions were followed during mixing and grout cleanup. Tried cleaning with vinegar solution, brush, etc. with no change. Upon cutting some out, the gray color is uniform throughout the grout.

I'm so ticked off that I am cutting out and regrouting an area of about 30 12"x12" tiles, and I probably will not use any Laticrete grout this time around.
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:24 PM   #6
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Okay, I give up. Who makes the best grout?
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:25 PM   #7
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Personally, I've always had good luck with TEC. But I've used most brands and I don't think I've ever had any major problems (at least that I'm aware of).
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:48 PM   #8
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We have used hundreds of bags of Laticrete cement grouts and thousands of units of epoxy grout without any hints of a problem like these two problems that you have had. I also know Laticrete to be a responsive company when something might have gone wrong. Hopefully, these are anomalies that won't occur again.

Zoid, was it the 1776 additive that you mixed in with the grout?
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:38 AM   #9
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Angry laticrete problem

We have experienced the same problem with laticrete grout there was no color in the latte now we will have too color it but will be using a different grout from now on. It has cost us alot of time and money!!!
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:12 AM   #10
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Yes, I used the 1776 Admix.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:43 AM   #11
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Laticrete chocolate truffle

I have the same problem with the chocolate truffle. Some areas look great but others are very light brown to tan. I also have some grey sections mixed in. I was suggested by a tile company to try concrete stain mixed to match the color and then apply a sealant over it. Any advice on this?
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:22 PM   #12
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I would recommennd emailing or calling Laticrete's technical support.

technicalservices@laticrete.com or give them a call at 800.243.4788 x235.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:44 PM   #13
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laticrete grout problem

I just finished tiling my bathroom floor and stall shower and sure wish I checked out this site before grouting with the laticrete product. I chose a dark 12x24 brown Porcelian tile and wanted a dark grout that would blend in with the tile and not stand out. I chose the laticrete sanded mocha grout, After the grout dried it turned grey(completely different color than what was on the color chart) causing very distinct grout lines exactly what i didn't want. All my hard work and money down the drain. Can anyone recommend a good grout color dye or better solution.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:14 PM   #14
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All my hard work and money down the drain.
I think it looks real nice, Phil. Good work! Just clean-up that grout haze
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:27 PM   #15
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What Shawn said, looks real good Phil. Worst case, IMO, is a good cleaning and a grout colorant.

Give Laticrete tech support a call, but first check here. Lots of good info and don't forget to check the grout trouble-shooting guide.

http://www.laticrete.com/contractors...nt_grouts.aspx
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