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12-19-2002, 10:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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new mosaic wall tiles cracking
I recently tiled my kitchen splashback with mosaic tiles.
2 days on I nticed some of the tiles were cracked, and then today I heard a load pop and noticed more tiles were cracked. I have plenty of tiles left over so I can replace them, I just wanted to know what I did wrong that caused them to crack so I don't repeat my mistake. I followed the instructions on the adhesive and the grout as best I could. help please
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12-19-2002, 11:22 AM
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Systems Engineer and Moderator, JB Forums
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Dexter, MI
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Hi Irish,
The more detail you post about your project, the better. Things like: What did you put the tile on (drywall, cbu)?. What kind of adhesive, how much? What kind of grout, how long did you wait before grouting.? Anything you can think of. If you can get the info up while the pro's are at work, they can answer quicker.
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12-19-2002, 11:25 AM
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Official Hostess and Moderator at Large
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Michigan
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Well, irish, maybe while you're waiting for the pros to answer, you could tell a little more about the installation. It might help give a few clues to your problem.
Whatcha got behind the tiles, and can you describe how you put them up? Might as well throw in the size and type of tile while you're at at it.
edited to add that Dave's faster on the draw than I am.
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12-19-2002, 11:52 AM
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more detail
well, they're 1" x 1" on plasterboard as to the adhesive and grout don't know what kind it was other than the stuff the guy in the tile shop gave me! the adhesive merely says wall tile adheseive and the grout was for wall tiles & mosaics.
I spread the adhesive with the supplied notched spreader and stuck up the mosaic sheets. left for 24 hours then grouted, did run out of grout and have some edges to tidy up, but the tiles haven't cracked specifically where there is more grout required.
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12-19-2002, 12:37 PM
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Remodeler -- Southern Cal.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southern California
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Is the tile cracking or the grout line cracking?
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12-19-2002, 12:42 PM
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Registered User
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the tile is cracking
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12-19-2002, 05:42 PM
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Mudmeister
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Houston, Texas
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Hi Irish, Welcome aboard.
I can't imagine what's going on there. I quite frankly have never heard of a situation such as yours. Goblins? Do you still have those things over there?
Let's hang tight. Someone may have an idea. Are the tiles extra fragile?
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12-19-2002, 06:01 PM
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Tileman
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Dayton, OH
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Extra fragile tile?
Substrate movement?
Bad and/or wrong glue?
Can you call or e-mail the tech dept. of the adhesive manufacturer? They might be able to shed some light.
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12-19-2002, 06:05 PM
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Remodeler -- Southern Cal.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southern California
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I'm Stumped
Mosiac Tile over drywall, applied with mastic. I can not imagine a more flexible application process.
Yet the tile is acting like it was set with thinset over 1x4 t&g in an earthquake zone.
I'm stumped.
I could imagine the grout lines cracking but the phyical porceline mosiac. Mastic's bond to drywall couldn't be that strong could it?
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"Sir, I May Be Drunk, But You're Crazy, and I'll Be Sober Tomorrow"
WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
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12-19-2002, 07:57 PM
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Tile Contractor -- Central Nebraska
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Central Nebraska
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What kind of tile really. Is it glass or something exotic? Is it near a heat source? Do you have pictures?
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12-20-2002, 07:11 AM
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Registered User
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they're glass I think, have the same tiles but in a differnet colour in the bathroom and they didn't crack. they are a kitchen splashback so yes they are near a heat source, the only explanation i've been able to come with by surfing the web and people guessing is that 1. some of the tiles didn't bond properly to the adhesive and as the tiles are on a webbed sheet the unbonded ones are under pressure from air pockets and crack!!
to John, no Goblins may be Leprechauns though!! maybe if I give back the gold i found under the rainbow my tiles will stop cracking!!
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12-20-2002, 11:10 AM
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"da Leveler" -- Moderator, Pro Hangout -- Lon Gisland, NY
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: LI, NY
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If not Leprechauns then it's definitely the Pookas.
I'll bet it's the heat.
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12-20-2002, 05:56 PM
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Mudmeister
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Houston, Texas
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I'm betting on leprechauns. I certainly don't have a better explanation.
Jim, I shouldn't ask, but what are pookas?
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12-20-2002, 06:32 PM
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"da Leveler" -- Moderator, Pro Hangout -- Lon Gisland, NY
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John in one of our many erudite discussions we attempted to define the technical word pookie. I felt it was derived from Irish Mythology A Pooka is a shape shifting magical being from Celtic folklore and a very mischievous being at that.
St Brendan had many run ins with them.
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12-20-2002, 06:49 PM
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Mudmeister
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Houston, Texas
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Aha. Best I not go there is Brendan's involved.
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