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Old 09-06-2005, 01:44 PM   #1
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Smile using grout over grout adhesive

I did the kitchen counter top and bought the premixed grout and adhesive. It was very messy and dried very quickly, now the grout lines are too low. I tiled the rest of the kitchen useng grout I had to mix and it worked great. My question is since it is adhesive/grout can I use the grout that has to be mixed over it. i am not sure if it will stick or not? Thanks Bobbi
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Old 09-06-2005, 03:54 PM   #2
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Remove it and I would be worried about the tile coming loose as well, seeing you used pre-mixed adhesive, what type of tile and size is it?
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:27 PM   #3
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I used 6 inch pourus tiles diagnally and bordered it with 2 rows of 2 inch tiles also pourus, then a decorative piece around the edges
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:29 PM   #4
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Sorry it is ceramic tile
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:31 PM   #5
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We consider these premixes, in general, other than acrylic, to be junk..they don't dry and harden well enough to form a permanent job.I also would recommend redoing anything done with these premixes, you're countertop will fail,in a short time, i'm afraid.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:18 AM   #6
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thank you

Thank you for your response, can I just rough up the grout lines then apply the new grout over it? Will it stay in the joints? Or do I have to chip out all of the grout? Thanks Bobbi
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:29 AM   #7
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Hi Bobby,

What the guys are saying, unfortunately, is that you may need to pull up the tiles that you've laid down and redo the countertop. Did you lay the tiles with a premixed adhesive as well as using a premixed grout? That stuff is just mastic -- glue that will take a long time to dry, if it ever does, and will reemulsify if it gets wet.

You want thinset and grout out of a bag, both being mixed with water -- that will give you a high quality job.

So what's the word? Premixed out of a bucket under the tiles?

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:44 PM   #8
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Hi Marcus

I used the grout in a bucket that was premixed and it also is the adhesive. It is not water soluable. The stuff is as hard as a rock. Thanks Bobbi
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Hi Bobbi,

I wouldn't redo anything. But the cement grout (mixed with water) won't adhere will to the grout you first used. You'll need to cut that stuff down as low as you can get it to make room for the new grout. That way, your whole top will be pretty much the same.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:02 AM   #10
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Thank you

I will try that this weekend and I want to tell you I think this is a great site and I am glad I found it for all my future home improvement needs. You provide a great service to newbies like myself. Bobbi
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:15 AM   #11
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regrouting over mastic

I want to thank everyone for there suggestions, I took the rotozip to the grout last night and got all the old stuff out and will be regrouting with the good stuff tonight. I will post pictures when I am done. Thanks Bobbi
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