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Old 07-24-2005, 09:16 PM   #1
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Toilet Rough in.

Hello All,

I am finishing my basement bathroom which was roughed-in by the builder. I have used the amazing information on this forum to install a custom shower pan and tile the entire shower and bathroom floor. I made the mistake and just assumed that the 2 x 6 wall that I installed, which was dictated by the location of the vent line, would be the correct distance from the toilet waste line. I never thought to check the distance. Well it turns out the waste line is 18" from the finished wall to the center of the line. I have researched this and have now found out the recomended distance for a rough in is about 12".

Well I am ready to install my toilet and have realized that I am going to have about a 6" gap between the back of the toilet and my finished wall. This is my fault. I should have checked this before I was so far into this project. Does any one have any suggestions on how I can make this look respectable. ARe there toilets with 18" offsets? Did the builder screw up when they placed the vent line?

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Old 07-24-2005, 09:20 PM   #2
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Toliets are 12" of the center of the back wall. 18 is too far when you put something on the back it will fall on the floor. DO NOT install a 45 flange it will clog and you will have 60% of problems with it.
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:23 PM   #3
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They probably screwed up the flange placement...happens all the time..that's why they make offsets...but you'd have to jackhammer the exising one out to install the offset.I don't know if they have toilets to fit that or not...someone else will.
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:32 PM   #4
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Hi Andres . Glad to meet you although I wish it was under better circumstances.

Don't know enough about the project plans to make any comments on the builder did/didn't do. Given the layout of this room would it even be feasible to build out a "false" wall to provide the 12" rough-in clearance neeed?
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:43 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone for your responses so far.

Mike,

At this point, building out a false wall is definitely an option. I just finshed sealing the grout on my tile and painting the drywall so I am definitely on the home stretch of finishing this bathroom. I would rather not jack hammer and replumb the line but I have put a lot of time and effort into this bathroom and I don't want it to look like it was patched together.

I have considered changing the orientation of the toilet 90 degrees but it would definitely look out of place.

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Old 07-24-2005, 09:44 PM   #6
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You can get 14" rough-in toilets, I think American Standard makes one.... That will help cut down on the space in the back. Maybe build a little shelf unit to help hide the gap?

Offset flanges dont offset much... Only 2-3 inches.

I have a feeling you'll be doing a little demo work....
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:18 PM   #7
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Howdy, Andres.
This sounds like it might be a perfect place for a bit of custom cabinetry. I think building the wall out 6" like Mike2 suggested and then recessing a decent sized cabinet from the top height of the tank up to a height of 80-82" above the floor might look pretty snazzy. This cabinet could be larger than the average "toilet topper" you find in the stores. Even though this cabinet would be basically flush with the drywall (the face frame would still stick out by 3/4") you could run some crown molding at the top of it to jazz it up even more. And you could get real crazy by laying some rope lighting in the trough that is created when the crown was installed. The lighting effect would look pretty cool crawling up the wall and hitting the ceiling.

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Old 07-24-2005, 10:22 PM   #8
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Actually the rough in for the center of the toilet/closet flange is 12 1/2" off of the framing.
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:47 PM   #9
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I favor Kurt's eye-dee. Fur out the back wall up three and a half, four feet or so and install a cabinet above it. I nearly always install cabinets there anyway, and my cabinet shop has come up with a real nice bottom for the units that tapers back from the face frame to about 7 or 8 inches anyway. Would look like you did a hellofa good job of planning, there.

This is what we refer to in the trade as a feature.
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Old 07-25-2005, 05:54 AM   #10
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Yeah, that would look good...and hey, it's gonna be real easy to clean behind.
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