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Old 03-09-2005, 12:47 PM   #1
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Shower pan - PVC or fiberglass liner?

Two questions:

I'm having a pro install travertine in the bathroom. I had an acrylic/fiberglass shower base that has been removed so that we can have a tile-in base. The installer says that he always builds fiberglass liners. He says that this will require the sloped mud to dry for 4-5 days prior to laying the 'glass, and then waiting another 2-3 days for the 'glass to dry. Then it can be leak tested and repaired if necessary. I've read Tile Your World and looked at several web sites and haven't seen anyone talking about using fiberglass instead of PVC. Due to the time and resin fumes, I've asked the installer to use use PVC. He's apprehensive and concerned that it won't last as long as glass. This install is on a stable concrete slab over bedrock (Texas hill country). Is 'glass really a better pan liner than PVC or is it just a lot more of a hassle? Is the cost the same? I suggested that he build a Kerdi shower but that's not gonna happen...

Also, this shower has a bench seat that is built into the framing (ie out of wood). The top of the seat is covered with fiberglass. The front had hardibacker which was removed during demolition. If we go with a PCV liner, should we just get an extra long one and extend it to cover this seat? Or just re-install Hardibacker and repair the fiberglass?

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Old 03-09-2005, 01:45 PM   #2
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Hi Matt,

Texas hill country huh...must not be far away.

I have seen alot of these fiberglass pans in the Austin area. There was ( at one time) one guy that dis them all. As demand has grown there are alot of hacks doing it as well. I hav emy concerns that the fiberglass is too rigid and may crack as the walls expand / contract. The biggest issue is the way the glass ties into the drain. The lower part of the drain should be the only thing installed at this time . Once the glass dries, the top ( clamping ring) should be installed. This prevents the weep holes from getting clogged by the resin.

I still like the PVC better.

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Old 03-09-2005, 02:00 PM   #3
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Fiberglass may be accepted in your part of the world but it is not listed as a suitable product in the Plumbing Codes. CPE offers a life time warrenty....
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:47 PM   #4
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PVC does last longer and is better just need to find someone that is a professional bathroom remodeler. I only use PVC!
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:54 PM   #5
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Matt,

have you heard of Kerdi or Hydroban as alternatives to fiberglass and a pvc liner?
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Time to find a new contractor imo. Hammy
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I vote CPE, I like how it holds its crease.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:45 PM   #8
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What Hammy said.

May want to have one of the Pro's here come and have a look at giving you a proper shower installation. Where in Texas are ya located? Lots of Pro's around here from Texas, like Jason for instance...
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I agree stay away from fiberglass if you can.Dont use Oatey brand liners the grey one because they have a plastersizer in the chemical compound that makes them brittle over a course of years and can leak.Compotite brand the blue liner called composeal can be found at Dal-Tile,American tile,Master tile & Travis tile in Austin Tx. Thats your best bet and thats what I install in all my showers even second floor showers that do not leak.Best of luck
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Guys, the thread was five years old when revived by possible spammer MHM. Shower's prolly finished, eh?
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Josef--all PVC liner's have 'plastersizer's" in it to make it flexable.
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Im sorry what I meant was the Blue liner I buy from Dal-Tile that is Chlorinated Polyethylene and you are right Pvc in order for it to be flexible has plastisizers.These liners do not its the grey Oatey liners I stay away from.By the way I use a fair amount of Noble seal for crack isolation since 1990 thats good stuff...
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if its not from the Noble Co. its PVC. Its would say "CHLORALOY meets astm 4068" otherwise its got Plaasticizers in it.
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Eric I would use your cpe liners but It seems noone carries them?
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