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Old 10-12-2004, 12:39 PM   #1
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Tiling a shower stall floor

Hi - I've been lurking a week or so. I'm working on a bathroom remodel that's 4'x8'; the stall is 3'x4'. I'd like to use the same 12x12 tiles in the stall as the rest of the room, but will this be a problem with the slope? So far, I've only seen stall floors with much smaller tiles. The drain is about 5-6" off center. I haven't checked the slope yet because I've been doing demo on the walls. The pan and existing tile floor look like they're in very good shape and solid (almost looks like tile was set right into the concrete). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-12-2004, 12:51 PM   #2
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Hi Quantum. Glad to have you with us.

Yes, generally speaking any tile larger that 4" will give you fits on a shower floor because of the slopes that hit the drain at different angles. This is especially true/noticable in smaller showers and even more so when the drain is off center. Personally I think you would be better off thinking about 2 X 2's on the floor.
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Old 10-12-2004, 03:44 PM   #3
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In addition to Mike's fine comment, there is also a greater possibility of slipping on the larger tile. With 2x2's you've got enough grout lines for your toes to get a hold of!
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Cool - thanks guys!
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Old 10-13-2004, 08:03 AM   #5
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:34 PM   #6
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Thanks John; its Jim.

I stuck a level on the shower floor last night after I posted, and the area of the floor closest to the plumbing doesn't seem to have enough slope. It has some slope, but I was wondering if I couldn't just put a little extra thinset under the new tiles to give it a little ooomph.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:55 PM   #7
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1/4" per foot is the recommended slope, but any slope that gets the water to the drain without ponding is good enough.
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Old 10-18-2004, 12:42 PM   #8
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Didn't know if I should start a new thread or not, so I found this one and dusted it off.

A few more questions for the Tile gods:

1. I read that Flexbond should be used if tile is going in over tile, and Versabond for tile going on Wonderboard. Correct? And why?

2. Is RedGard easy to find? I asked a HD guy over the weekend and he gave me a 1000 yard stare. (Need it for niche I want to build.)

3. I bought 6 mil plastic sheeting. Does it go under the WOnderboard in the stall or throughout the entire bathroom?

4. I was planning on putting greenboard on the bathroom walls outside of the stall; the sink will have a tile backsplash, and the rest of the room will have only a sanitary base. Cool?
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Old 10-18-2004, 01:20 PM   #9
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back to your first question...

"I'd like to use the same 12x12 tiles in the stall as the rest of the room"

you can always cut the 12x12's down to 2,3 or 4" pieces. you just need to set the guide on the wet saw and stand there for about an hour or so. I've done this often for customers wanting to use the same tile on the shower floor.

hope that helps,

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Old 10-18-2004, 01:51 PM   #10
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Thanks kil - I thought about that but went back and got 2x2 tiles for the shower floor. Figgered it was easier that way....
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Hi Jim,

Home Depot is still regional in its buying habits, but it's trying to get things in universally. In my Home Depot the Red Guard is in the roofing section. (Yeah, I know. )

The poly (plastic sheathing is only needed in the shower, not all around the bathroom.

Greenboard is fine for the bathroom walls.
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:47 AM   #12
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Thanks John! Incredible site , btw; especially these forums.

I've tackled lots of home improvement projects, but I always found water-related stuff very intimidating - more so than electrical work.
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:57 AM   #13
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Jim HD has it but the guys working there often have no clue they do. Local HD 3 or 4 people said no way till finally someone asked the guy who said oh yeah aisle 10. Here it is in a small section in flooring/tile where the keep grout and tile cleaners etc
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