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Old 02-21-2018, 12:56 AM   #1
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Advice Request: Tiling Fireplace Hearth & Surround

I have some basic questions about how to proceed to retile the hearth and surround in the photo. I will be removing the wood trim in the photo.

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The floor is a patching material over chipCrete. Pretty flat.
I want to have the porcelain tile flush with the hardwood flooring I will be installing, which will be 3/4" with the underlayment.
I'm thinking to use Ditra and thinset to build up the tile flush to the hardwood.
I'd like to use 2 pieces of 16 x 32 inch porcelain tile for the hearth, but I'm concerned that I may not get them level to each other.
Appreciate comments and recommendations on my plan.

Surround
As you can see from the photo the old surround was fixed to wall board with mastic. I'll be using 12 x 24 tiles for the surround.
Should I use mastic or thinset to install the files?
Replace the damaged wall board with regular drywall or something else like durock?

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Old 02-21-2018, 10:12 AM   #2
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1. Use a medium bed thinset and it wont be hard to get 2 tiles flat and level with everything.

2. Thinset, if it were me I would use CBU.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:05 PM   #3
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Thanks.

No Ditra?

If I don’t use CBU can I use thin set over the wall board To install the 12 x 24 tile I’ll be using for the surround

Another ?
There is a metal flange above the fireplace. Not sure what the purpose of this was. The previous 8 x 8 tile was laid on top of it. I’m thinking I can just remove this and have the tile line of the surround start where the fireplace insert begins. I’ll need to paint the area where the flange was, as it looks pretty worn there.
Is There any reason that I need to keep this metal flange in place?
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1.) I would use the ditra.
2.) I see alot of holes and damage to the wall, I wouldn't install on it in the way it is. Hard to tell what the metal is for, could be a heat shield or possibly a bracket? Like I said its too hard to tell from the pic.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:40 PM   #5
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Thanks. Help is much appreciated

Iím Definitely planning on replacing the damaged wall board. It just will be bigger project if I replace it all with CBU or just cut out the bad sections and replace with CBU OR Sheetrock. So if itís okay to leave the good sections of drywall Iíll go that way. (I gather from other posts itís okay, if not the best install)

I think the metal strip was installed as a flange for the original tile install so 8 x 8 tiles could be installed with no cuts.
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Ed, a closer pic of the metal flange might help us determine what the flange is and if it should be removed.

Are you planning to remove the wood frame that goes across the top and down the sides? I know you have solid wood across the top to nail to but you will need studs to nail the new sheetrock to on the sides. I would locate those.
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:57 PM   #7
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Hi Davy

Yes the wood frame has been removed.

Attached are pics of A close-up of the metal flange as well as how the project looks after removal of the damaged wall board

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Thanks for the pics. Yeah, I think you're doing the right thing by removing the metal. Hopefully your stud layout will be the same on the left side as it is on the right.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:26 AM   #9
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Smile Check Design Using 16 x 32 Tiles

I have found a 16 x 32 tile I would like to use for the hearth and surround. The tile looks like this.
safari - mar 8, 2018 at 9:00 am.pdf

My plan is to use 6 pieces of this tile in this design. No cuts needed.
fireplace tile layout marina lakes.pdf
Hearth will be over Ditra

Questions
1. Is Ardex X a suitable thinset for this project? I'll use a 1/2 notched trowel
2. Install Hearth or surround first or does it matter?
3. Part of surround will cover a few inches of the top of the fireplace insert, similar to the tile surround that was there before. Any issues/advice on this? Can I apply thinset on the fireplace metal? I plan on using a temporary support board for this top layer of two tiles for alignment and to avoid slippage while the mortar sets.
4. Suggestions how to finish edges of tile on the surround both outside on the drywall and inside around the fireplace. What is simple and look nice? I plan to have hearth tile level with the hardwood I'll be installing and almost flush - 1/4 gap filled with matching caulk.

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Would really appreciate a reply to my last post.

The Ardex X I would like opinions on as to suitability for tiling 16 x 32 tiles is X5 white. Keeping in mind these are just for around a fireplace and on the floor for the hearth.

For ease of review I've included the photos from the links in the last post right here.
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The links will be better to get a larger image of the tile being used.

Thanks very much.
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