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Old 09-15-2017, 01:19 PM   #1
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Sunken Tub Fill-in

My sunken tile tub on ground floor in slab foundation has been removed but the contractor left the debris, ceramic tile, curb, steps etc in hole and poured concrete on top. He attached new drain to the old drain to raise it to floor height. Is this okay, as in standard operating procedure?

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Old 09-15-2017, 03:00 PM   #2
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Not really, I could maybe see leaving busted up tile as fill. Sounds more like a lazy contractor. Did he pin or add rebar to try and tie the new pour in with the old? Just curious. Got any pics?
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Old 09-15-2017, 04:34 PM   #3
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Welcome, Steph.

I've separated your project from the other visitor's unrelated project thread to avoid confusion on both.
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Rebar?

No, rebar was Not used.

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Appears that he also did not install a P-trap under the drain. Is there maybe such a trap somewhere downstream of your photo?
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:30 PM   #6
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Yep, what Cx said. It would be nice if you had a pic of the plumbing before the cement was poured.
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Ptrap

When I asked him about going all the way down to the ptrap he said no he just tied on to the existing dain. The existing ptrap is under the slab.
Each time he has gotten to the drains there is soil/dirt, so he must be under the slab. So I don't understand how much farther is the ptrap.
I will take alot more pictures at each stage of all my future projects. This contractor was highly recommended by experienced interior designer who has extensive tile work in a mansion. I'm just a poor acquaintance.
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Shower Curb

Pictures of new shower, curb, & tubslash. Does it look okay?
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Looks rather amateurish to me. I'd ditch the treated 2x4s, treated wood shrinks and twists over time making it a poor choice for tile installs.

Stud spacing by the niche looks more than 16", and his niche frame looks like its almost floating.
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Treated wood

Thank you, please let me know if you notice anything else.
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Is this guy a tile installer or just a handyman?

I see a liner in one pic, did he install a pre slope before the liner?
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Wall studs & pressure treated wood

Yes the interior wall studs in my house are way larger than 16 inches, more like 24. i recently found out the exterior wall studs are 16 inches, which was a big relief.

The contractor just called and told me he always builds the curb out of pressure treated lumber. Do you know of a construction ansi standard or building code that supports what you are telling me? Should I create a new thread?
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I don't but hopefully someone will weigh in with an official stance. Any wood used should be kiln dried, and over concrete the best thing to use for a curb is bricks or other cement type materials or a foam backer like kerdi board. If using kiln dried lumber its a good idea to use some sort of vapor barrier beneath it to keep it from actually making contact with concrete.
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Treated wood in shower covered w cement board

Do you know of a construction ansi standard or building code that says not to use treated lumber in shower? I told the contractor my/your concerns, he is arguing that it's okay.

Tonight when I came home the pressure treated lumber was covered in cement board. If you look at pictures posted yesterday the treated lumber in the curb was covered w a plate linner. The soap niche is not. But the entire shower is now covered by cement board. I know they plan to red guard soon.
Should I make them tear it out? Or halt construction-let them go?

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Steph, I mud my curbs like it shows in the "Liberry" (dark blue bar above, shower construction info thread). A lot of times I will use treated for the bottom 2x4 and regular pine for the top two. Never have had a problem. BUT, if they nailed cement board on the curb over the liner, then you now have holes in the liner which will cause you problems in the future. The curb is usually the first place to start leaking. Most of the time it's from installers nailing cement board to it. If they did this, I'd halt production.

Edit; And no, Redgard over the nail heads won't fix it. Water will find it's way behind the cement board and rust out the nails that way. Like Ryan said, the preslope under the liner is also important, was this done?
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