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Old 04-21-2017, 04:01 PM   #61
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With the new layout, the gradient is now 28.9 degrees away from pointing directly at the 63" back wall. That's arctan ((5'2" - 3'10") / (5'3" - 2'10")).

Now the 63" backwall corner slope is sin(28.9 deg) = 48.3% of the primary slope. So you could make the primary slope 1/2" per foot and have plenty of slope on the 63" backwall corner. Or you could make it 3/8" per foot and cheat a bit on the backwall corner slope.

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P.S. Since you're still in the design phase, here's a couple ideas you could use to simplify the geometry, if any of them appeal to you:

1) Make the entrance parallel to one of the walls (e.g. the 63" wall), so the pan slopes towards that wall and you can use a trench drain. E.g. you could have a fixed glass panel 16" long going from the vanity end wall towards the top of the page, and then a glass door perpendicular to that. If desired, the 16" x 2'10" area next to the fixed glass could be a bench.

2) Make the entrance at a 45 degree angle, using a fixed glass panel perpendicular to tub end wall to fill in the opening. Then you can slope your main floor at 3/8" per foot or a bit under, and the back wall corners will still be sloped 1/4" per foot towards a back corner drain.

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Old 04-21-2017, 06:36 PM   #63
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Wayne, thanks for those ideas, I really like hearing thoughts and ideas. The entrance needs to be at least 32" for wheel chair accessibility (when the time comes I want to be prepared).
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Well, if you like idea (1), then before the vanity end wall got longer, your opening was 33.5" wide in the left-right dimension on the page (parallel to the 63" back wall). I would think the vanity end wall could easily be as short as 2' 3", which would give you a 36" wide opening in that dimension.

Are the measurements shown in your drawing rough (framing member to framing member) or finished?

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The dimensions are inside to inside measurements. The wall studs are 2X4's with 1/2" sheetrock on one side and concrete board plus tile on the other side. The vanity wall was made longer to help with floor sloping while keeping the entrance greater than 32".
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Well here's the recessed frame for the concrete foundation.
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Going to install a triangular corner drain and slope the mud bed to it. Should be able to keep everything flat and maintain an adequate slope....based on the layout and dimensions can it be done???
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The concrete under the recessed area will be 4" thick, just as he surrounding slab. As stated, the concrete will be recessed 3" to accomadate he shower. Would it be a good idea to waterproof the recessed concrete area with a waterproofing liquid like Redgard before building the mud bed? Not sure why, unless the drain was made such that it had a secondary drain, but just thinking. Is it recommended to install thinset on the recessed concrete before applying the mud bed?
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Hi Paul,

One question I had when I was trying to help Billy, is it OK to use a flat slope with a corner drain? That would mean that water from many places runs up against one of the walls, and then runs in the wall/floor corner to reach the drain. If doing this, would the wall/floor corner need to be sloped at least 1/4" per foot towards the drain?

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Wayne, Good question.....
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Paul, Is thinset under the mudbed recommended?
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Yes. Required, actually.

But I'm not Paul, so if you'll accept only his answer, you'll just hafta wait, eh?
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Just wondering why thinset is required under the mudbed inside a recessed slab? It's not like the mudbed can shift in any direction.....just curious...
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