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DaveE · 03-23-2004, 03:45 PM

Quick question on attaching the stone veneer. I am installing the stone veneer on the face of a firepalce in my living room. I have installed 1/2 " Wonder Board to the framing. Can I use thin set to install the stone veneer or should I use a heavier morter product? I have several bags of thin set left over from a couple of tile jobs and wanted to use them up. Any guidance based on your experience would be appreciated!

Steven Hauser · 03-23-2004, 04:02 PM

Hi Dan,

Buy the Latapoxy 310 Stone Adhesive.

I Like it.

My .02

Rd Tile · 03-23-2004, 04:51 PM

If those open bags are over 6 months old, toss em.

rbatten · 03-24-2004, 06:30 PM

I just did a fireplace with cultured stone, is that what your using? If so I used type N morter over metal lathe. I was covering a brick fireplace.

DaveE · 03-24-2004, 08:44 PM

I am using the cultured stone, I belive it's called Eldorado Stone. I am going over an old brick fireplace that had many coats of paint. It was easier to just cover it with WonderBoard and start with a clean, straight and flush surface. Based on the earlier thread, I will dump the thinset, it's almost a year old and go with a Type N morter. When all else fails read the instructions. Thanks for all your input.

rbatten · 03-24-2004, 08:52 PM

Here are some Pics:

Before

rbatten · 03-24-2004, 08:54 PM

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rbatten · 03-24-2004, 08:55 PM

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Steven Hauser · 03-25-2004, 07:48 AM

OH!

Cultured stone. There are instructions with the product. I think Type S will be just fine on the face.

Is it stick framing? If so I would use felt, lath and a scratch coat, then the type S.

My.02

Dave Anderson · 03-25-2004, 08:19 AM

Quote:

OH!

Cultured stone. There are instructions with the product. I think Type S will be just fine on the face.

Is it stick framing? If so I would use felt, lath and a scratch coat, then the type S.

My.02

Someone mentioned using Type S with a shovel of thinset thrown in. Have you heard of that?

The instructions say to use 'paper backed lath'. What the heck is that and how is it different than a piece of lath from HD? Who sells it?

How think is the scratch coat? 1/2"?

Thanks!

Dave Anderson

Steven Hauser · 03-25-2004, 09:34 AM

Hi Dave,

Yes I have seen the paper backed lath. I have found it at specialty tile stores as well as masonry supply stores. that said 15 lb. roofing felt with diamond lath works just as well.

I make the bond coat thick enough to coat the lath, never a 1/2" what in my mind is skim coat, I do see a little metal here and there when I am done sometimes. I key the mortar in with the flat side of my trowel and then flip it over to get a couple of ridges here and there.

I have heard of the practice but personally don't do it. IMO I gain nothing but an extra step.

Dave Anderson · 03-25-2004, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the info Steve! I'm planning to do a stone chimney in the livingroom over the mantel. It will run about 15 feet tall.

So you use a 1/4" notched trowl for your scratch coat then?

Dave

dmoolenaar · 03-25-2004, 11:46 AM

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...light=Eldorado

rbatten · 03-25-2004, 12:11 PM

Here is a link for the stone I used. If you click on tech. data and then select installation instructions pdf it will get you started.

I tried to give you a direct link but it won't let me.

http://culturedstone.com/

Dave Anderson · 03-25-2004, 01:12 PM

Okay, I got the instructions for the Cultured Ledge Stone that I intend to use. Here are some things they say that I have questions with.

1) Steve said to use "Type S". They recommend "Type N".

2) Where do you buy mortor color? They recommend a colored tint, although I plan to do a 'dry fit' with the Southern Ledgestone product...

3) Does anyone have experience with an inset area similar to the photo from the Owens web site? I'm wondering what is used for a backing inside of the inset...

4) Is it better to put a coating of mortar on the scratch coat, or to butter each piece...

That's all for now!

Dave