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Old 02-04-2014, 01:25 AM   #1
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Seeking info on Kerdi shower failures

I'm talkin shower failures where Kerdi was used as the primary waterproofing. Anyone seen or heard of any? Any age, any approved substrate, anything? Thanks.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:27 AM   #2
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I've done quite a few, maybe 75 or so, probably not as many as other pros here. Got two in my own house. None have failed yet, to my knowledge.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:05 AM   #3
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I've never seen a failed one.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:26 AM   #4
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How many have replaced a shower because the new home owner didn't like the layout or tile and there was kerdi underneath? I am thinking about using Kerdi for my shower project coming up.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:32 AM   #5
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Kerdi shower failures

What Schluter has done, better than anyone else in our industry, is spend the time and money to provide the best training that proves when you follow their instructions on installing their products you stop all chances of failure.
Is this true of most all other products? Yep, most likely, HOWEVER, no other mfg has invested in a program like Schluter. As a reward installers choose to use Schluter products and made them a true leader in our industry.
Unwavering focus on quality and training has paid off well for everyone!
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:37 AM   #6
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I have never heard of any in my area.I use Schluter everyday and it has treated me well.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:07 AM   #7
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If we were gonna hear about such failures, 'specially from a third party, I would expect it to be right here on this website. Anyone in the industry would likely know just where to go to start bashing that product or just to report factually on a product failure.

We've heard of one where the foam tray was moving and the floor failed, but the shower owner declined to allow Schluter to be present for the demolition to determine just what happened there. And we've heard of the steam shower failure where the steam plumbing was installed next to the Kerdi Board, but that sure wouldn't count as a Schluter or Kerdi failure in my book.

I know of no actual failures. I own only a few and the oldest has seen only about five years of service. All are remodels in houses I built years ago and my customers do know how to contact me.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:00 AM   #8
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I remember those 2 instances CX, and wouldn't consider them Kerdi failures or even Kerdi Shower failures either. Did a search here and found nothing even pointing to one.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:17 AM   #9
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I saw one fail, homeowner hired a landscape guy to do her shower, he had no clue what kerdi was, he tried to re use the clamping drain. When she asked for a flood test, she got a new ceiling downstairs.

not kerdi s fault
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:42 PM   #10
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Just seein if anyone else has seen or heard or any failures. Any. Thanks for lookin in.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:33 PM   #11
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Dana, just curious as to why you are asking?

I assume somebody said they fail all the time and you are trying to prove them wrong.

I haven't done a ton of Kerdi showers but have not had any failures. Found a leak after a flood test but corrected it before tiling.

It is is like most of the quality products on the market, if installed correctly it will work, if installed incorrectly it will fail.
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What I can tell you is IF the kerdi system ever starts to fail I am moving very very far away because there will be many many people after me.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:45 PM   #13
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Just like any system we have seen multiple failures. ALL of them have always been installer related. I have never need a failure of any Schluter product that was directly related to the product failing as opposed to the installation of the product causing the failure.

As others have stated, i'm sure if failures were out there, they'd be documented somewhere on this forum.
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All failures are usually installer related with any shower!
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:31 AM   #15
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I have seen one. Just recently. But it appeared to be consistent with a combination of three errors or deficiencies.
1) The "drain hole" cut through the wood subfloor was quite over-sized compared to the body of the Kerdi drain. Two inches to be exact.
2) The substrate below the foam pan was only diagonal 1x8 solid dimensional boards...no plywood. And
3) One of the centermost 1x8 boards was cracked in half so severely that it was drooping down into the basement at 30 degrees from the horizontal plane of the floor.
This all resulted in excessive deflection of the floor tiles. It was about 5 years old. It wasn't leaking, but a few mosaic tiles had come loose.

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