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06-22-2015, 04:50 PM
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Location: So. California
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We recommend wetting the tiles first and most have installers have found this helpful. As you suggested, too much water in the joints can lead to shrinkage. So it is important to only dampen the surface and remove any standing water in the joints.
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07-12-2015, 07:30 PM
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Location: NYC Staten Island
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Will the Fusion Pro grout stick to its cured self? Meaning if I stopped and left some residual in adjoining tile grout joints, if I go over that spot a day later will there be a problem with that? Will the new stick to the old? If not, what's the recommended procedure in this case? Thanks.
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07-12-2015, 07:35 PM
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Da Home Builder
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
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1. Yes, it will.
2. No, it won't.
3. See #1.
4. See 1 through 3.
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07-12-2015, 07:47 PM
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Location: NYC Staten Island
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Thanks. I had 4 tiles on the perimeter with wet mortar under them so I didn't grout those joints yet. The Mrs (SWMBO) is getting cranky about the kitchen being out of commission for so long so I have to make it look like I'm doing something
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Last edited by Motordoctor; 07-12-2015 at 09:46 PM.
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07-12-2015, 09:58 PM
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#485
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Tile Magician
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Austin TX
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I was talking about the clean up process with Paul which uses a microfiber rag after the sponge
Will this work paul?
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Ranger Tile and Stone
oficially schluter-ized by Les Garey!!
innovating tile installation in austin tx....me vs fiberglass pans war
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07-13-2015, 08:09 AM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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It'll work just fine. We've done essentially the same thing by wrapping a cloth around a sponge.....
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
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07-13-2015, 10:29 AM
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Tile Magician
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Location: Austin TX
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Just ordered 8 will report back on performance
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Ranger Tile and Stone
oficially schluter-ized by Les Garey!!
innovating tile installation in austin tx....me vs fiberglass pans war
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07-13-2015, 11:30 AM
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Oscar, I don't use that exact sponge but i do use a full microfiber one and it works great.
Laz, if your still wrapping a microfiber clothe around a sponge I would highly recommend buying a couple full microfiber sponges. The amount of time you will save by not having to wrap the clothe around the sponge makes a huge time difference.... At least in my opinion
The one thing I will say is that one of the first sponges I bought and tried had kind of a long nap to it and pulled on the grout a bit much. Try to find one that has extremely short loops/nap, I find they work a whole lot better
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07-13-2015, 11:50 AM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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Ray~While the "sponge trick" works pretty well, after using Fusion a number of times, I've taken to simply using a regular well wrung-out sponge and making two passes over the tile. If haze remains, particularly with a high gloss tile, I give it a bit of time and just buff with the microfibre.
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
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07-13-2015, 02:48 PM
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Dumb question here (it's what I'm best at  . When you wipe down the tiles after you load up the grout joints, are you able to keep the grout flush with the tiles? Even with a light touch I still can't make them level with the tiles. Or is that just normal. Thanks. This Fusion Pro is the only grout I have ever used so I don't have anything to compare it to.
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07-13-2015, 03:23 PM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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Fusion Pro is a fairly new "leading edge" type of grout. You need a couple of new, very flat sponges and a light touch. You want to wring the sponges out WELL. The first "pass," which should be done within a couple of (literally) minutes is in a circular motion to re-emulsify the grout. Give it a minute or two and use a well wrung out sponge to "dress" the tile in a diagonal motion.
You may need to repeat, depending on the tile. Let it set for a bit and buff it with a microfibre for haze removal. More important on shiny tile than on textured one's.
The same applies to standard grout....but you may (or may not) need to buff it out quite as much later.
I may only add that typically, the grout in ANY installation is generally slightly below the level of the tile. This is normal.....
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
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07-13-2015, 05:08 PM
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#492
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Location: NYC Staten Island
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Here's a couple of pictures.
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07-13-2015, 08:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Prince Rupert BC Canada
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Probably mentioned before, but aquamix grout haze remover works amazingly well if there is residue or a sheen left from fusion. I had a very stubborn haze left on a strange type of porcelain recently, hours of scrubbing could not fix what took minutes with the haze remover.
I've used probably 20-30 gallons of fusion, but for whatever reason we don't play well together. I've had more luck with a competing product.
That's not to say I see anything wrong with fusion, all of the jobs I've used it on have held up.
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07-13-2015, 10:40 PM
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#494
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Alaska
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The best way I've found to use fusion is on VERY Small grout lines! But if that's not the case, just work very quickly, use as little water as possible and a very light touch. I've also found that heavy duty dense sponges like the 3m commercial type work better than the hydrophilic type, at least in my experience.
At a recent TCNA meeting, they were showing us the wash with a microfiber towel method. Been playing with that, but it's weird. The theory is that with a full size towel, you get 8 sides per rinse. You can also use it to towel drag, which helps a lot with the haze. The only real issue I see is that microfiber towels are expensive, and grout destroys them quickly.
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07-14-2015, 07:03 AM
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Da Home Builder
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carter
At a recent TCNA meeting, they were showing us the wash with a microfiber towel method.
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What sort of meeting would that have been, Carter?
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