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Old 11-04-2010, 07:01 PM   #1
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Noble Wall Seal

I was looking at some Wall Seal. The stuff is 25 mils thick. Has anyone any experience with this? It feels like trying to work with a pan liner on the wall.

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Old 11-04-2010, 07:06 PM   #2
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That's their newer, thinner stuff, Hammy.
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Jason's (old world tile.....\) used it a few times. Hope he'll stop by.

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Old 11-04-2010, 08:26 PM   #4
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I have a 100 sf roll I'm planning on using in a shower in 2 weeks. I have been curious also about seams and corners. Also wondering about application methods (thinset or their glue) Not sure if the ext glue is for showers or not but they sent me a bucket of it with the wall seal from an NTCA voucher. It's pretty messy to work with but holds extremely well.

I assume they have some pre fab corners no? Hope so.
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Mark, post up your results and thoughts. Hammy
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I have always thought their membrane was great for floors but that is some thick stuff to put on walls where you need to overlap. You think you get buildup with kerdi and kerdi band! Two layers of that stuff is 50mils!
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Byran: Two layers of that stuff is 50mils!

That was my thinking.

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Actually, I been told the NobleSeal, the much heavier stuff, is even easier to use for tub surrounds. The stuff will take a crease, and you allegedly measure it out onna floor, fold and crease, then do the entire surround in one piece. With two guys it's said to be a slam dunk, but it can be done single-handed, too.

My first question was about walls slightly outa plumb. "Yeah, your corners gotta be plumb," was the response. If they're not, I can see where some trimming of the bottom would still make that work, though.

I've never tried any of it and will also be interested to hear the comments.
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Not sure if the ext glue is for showers or not but they sent me a bucket of it with the wall seal
Wall seal use the EXT or latex mod thinset.

We have not used Wall Seal but the TS is great for floor and wall applications. As cx mentioned you can precut and crease everything beforehand. The TS definitely holds a tight fold. Tub surrounds and shower pans can be install with a full sheet without any seams.
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Good to know Kevin. Thanks. I'll have some results in a few weeks Hammy unless I chicken out and use kerdi.
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I do like that you can get noble sheet goods in widths greater than 39 inches.

You might be able to get a pan with one piece but you gotta seam that pan to the wall somehow and those inside outside corners will have three layers of something and that has gotta be close to 3/16" when all is said and done!

Don't get me wrong, they make great stuff but with all the whining I hear about kerdi buildup....

Using a single piece in a tub surround would be slick, if you got plumb walls. I ain't never seen one of them though.

I am coming to the conclusion that the more I know/use the better off I will be. I could get by in life with using just kerdi, or just hydroban. However, if I roll up on a job and someone has put drywall up in the wet areas, Kerdi it is. If there is a backer up, I hydroban. If there is nothing, kerdiboard. Need crazy crack suppression on a floor, noble. Lotta tools in the bag, some only get used once or twice a year but I am glad I have them.
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If the walls are out of plumb , the use of a window screen roller works real slick for "tucking" the membrane in tight to the corner.
2 layers of 25 mil is 50 mils but only 25 mil differant.
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Pictures Pleez

Does anyone have pictures of a shower pan done or being done with TS or Wall Seal?

Anyone used it with a kerdi drain? Pics?
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Wall Seal not to be used as a shower pan, best of my knowledge, Mark. Think that's why they call it Wall Seal, maybe.
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I did not know that. So anybody have pics of a TS pan or wall seal on the walls?

That seems odd that it's okay for walls but not floor no???
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