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Old 03-13-2018, 11:08 AM   #1
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First Time Tiling..

I am in the process of redoing my bathroom. I am just about ready to tile the tub and shower surround. I will be using subways tile 2x4 with the mesh backing. My question is should I be using spacers and a tile leveling system since I am a rookie? Thanks
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:03 PM   #2
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No need for spacers or leveling system.

1- How did you waterproof the area?

2- Did you flatten the wall studs before setting the backer boards?

3- What thinset were you fixin to use?
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:15 PM   #3
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Paul,

I did shim the studs where it was not flat. I do have one spot, where the cbu meets the 1/2 drywall. I didn't realize the cbu was not really 1/2 but 7/16. I feathered this edge the best I could.

I applied to 2 coats of redgard as waterproofing.

I was planning to use versabond thinset in white...

Any tips on how to get started would be appreciated....thanks
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:31 PM   #4
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Looks like to me the Redgard is too thin. It needs to be credit card thickness. When it's that thick, you usually can't see thru it.

Like Paul said above, with 2x4 tles on a sheet, you really don't need spacers but a non sag thinset would help. Custom's Pro Lite is popular.

I would check all 3 sides of the tub to see if they are level. They are almost always out of level somewhere. I like starting with full tiles at the low end of the tub and cut the tiles to fit the high end of the tub. Keep the tiles level.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:12 PM   #5
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I ended up putting another coat of waterproofing...I have a few questions about getting started.

I marked the center line and if I put the center of tile on this center line, the cuts in the corner are small.

If i slide the tile just off the center line as shown in the picture the cuts in the corner seem to be around a half tile, which i would assume to be right?

Should I start in the corner or in the center and work the first row around all 3 walls? The tub is slightly off level..The lowest part would be the inside right corner. If I keep the tiles 1/8in off i shouldnt have to cut any tiles for the first row?

I marked a level line just above where my first row should be. My plan would be to shim the tile off the tub up to the level line....Would that be correct?

Thanks for the help....
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That's typically the way I do it, starting in the center and working out so that I end up with equal tile on both ends.

Are there not little built in spacer lugs on those tile? In your picture, you appear to have about 1/8" spacing, typically those tile are set right down on the spacers.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:30 AM   #7
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Just a mesh backing I don't see any built in spacers. The gap is at 1/8in. Should I be planning on full tiles all along the tub edge or will I be cutting?
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Ok, yeah I see that now. With a mesh backing that makes more sense. You may end up needing some spacers or you might get by without them, hard to say until you get going.

If your tub is out of level by 1/8" or more, you'll have to cut some of them to keep everything level and maintain a 1/8" gap at the tub. Are you running tile to the ceiling?
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Thanks kevin....yes I will be tiling to the ceiling.

The tub is just a hair off maybe 1/8in..
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I left the first row that I will have to cut....should I leave the tile the same gap off the corner?
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Yes, about 1/8 or 3/16" gap is fine. The tile on the side walls will cover it.
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Im just about up to the ceiling and im realizing the ceiling is not so level. Looks like I will go from a 1 3/4 tile on the left side to about 3/4 on the right. Im assuming this will be pretty noticeable. Any ideas on what to do?
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Is it the tile or the ceiling thatís crooked? Or a combination of the two?

If itís the ceiling, can the ceiling be corrected at all? Without a wider angle picture, I canít tell if correcting the ceiling is an option without messing other stuff up.

Another quick idea is to stop tiling short of the ceiling so as to disguise the crookedness a bit.


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It's the ceiling....tile is level. Ceiling is already taped and finished. If I stop short can the cbu be painted ?
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