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Old 08-24-2017, 02:38 PM   #1
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Mortar Bed Issue

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This is my first shower remodel and the mortar bed did not come out as expected. I did the unthinkable of "patching" a few spots that didn't appear even with more mortar. The spots are now coming off when pressed/rubbed hard. Otherwise the bed is rock solid.
Let me know your opinion on what I should do next. I'm hoping there's a way to fix this without tearing out the whole bed.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:42 PM   #2
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Not what you want to hear but I would replace it. Most likely, if you were to stick tiles to it, the tiles would easily pull up, along with chunks of mud.

What are you using on the walls? If you say CBU, how are you planning to anchor the CBU down near the floor?
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Old 08-24-2017, 04:29 PM   #3
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Welcome, Darius.

What Davy said.

Do you have a sloped mortar bed under that liner we see?

Is that shower floor wide enough to meet the code minimum of 30 inches? Looks like it might be less than two hammers wide.

Deck mud's cheap. Labor's free.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 08-24-2017, 04:45 PM   #4
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are those staples in the top of your curb or flecks of something?
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Old 08-24-2017, 06:01 PM   #5
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Along with the other things mentioned, when you need to add mud to a low spot you have to chop that area back up. If you add to an already packed or slicked off area the mud won't bond very well to itself.
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Old 08-24-2017, 09:25 PM   #6
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Thank you all for the feedback - next step, tear it all out.
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:24 PM   #7
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I got no answer so...If those were in fact staples you want no fasteners on top of or inside of curb only out side of the shower. There is a abundance of information here on this forum and a bunch of great and patient tile setters that will walk you through your project,don't rush and don't hesitate to ask a question if you are not sure. They want you to build a great shower. They are here to help
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:16 AM   #8
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No response to my questions either, Shawn. Good that you repeated yours, it's important.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:49 PM   #9
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The shower is 28" wide at the base. I was planning to get the other 2" by placing the door on the outside of the base. Otherwise, I have no other way to have a shower since it is now exactly 15" from the middle of the toilet.
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Also, was planning to use Hardie board for the walls.
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Also, was planning to use Hardie board for the walls.
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More questions than answers, I'm afraid.

That's a really narrow shower. Can toilet be moved?

Were you going to fur out the Hardie over liner going up wall?

What have you got planned for the bottom edge of Hardie where it meets mud pan? Also, how do you intend to fasten bottom?
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The pre-slope is important, Darius. Again, do you have one under your liner?

The toilet clearance needn't be measured to the outside of the curb. You could move the curb out a couple inches and put your glass enclosure in the center of the curb maybe? If you go on with the glass on the outside edge, be sure you have at least the minimum slope on the curb top.

Even the mandatory 30 inches is a really narrow shower. Be nice if you could move the terlit like Peter asked about.

We're not picking on you, we just want to see you get the best shower you can.

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Old 08-26-2017, 01:08 PM   #14
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All, not feeling as if you're picking on me. I'm just not able to respond right away and it may appear as if not interested. I appreciate everyone new questions/feedback. Still learning to navigate the site so I'm answering as I can. Please allow me a bit more time to get to it all.
Regarding CX question about pre-slope, yes i have a pre-slope.
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Old 08-26-2017, 01:11 PM   #15
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The shower is in the kids' bathroom. Currently the kids are 5 years old.
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