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Old 03-24-2017, 05:18 PM   #1
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Floating bench question.

If done right, would it be ok to construct a floating bench out of wood?

Picture a 5x7 shower. Bench would be L shaped across the 5'. 16" deep and come out a total of 32" on one side.

Original idea is to construct some beefy boxes and connect it all together. Cover it in cement board like the rest of the walls and then paint some waterproofing or apply some membrane to whatever specs the system recommends.

Did I mention this is likely to be a steam room/shower and it's in the basement and I'm making it curbless with a linear drain
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Or build it from 2 pieces of 2 inch thick kerdi board and put metal L brackets sammiched between the boards, lagged into the wall studs as we did below.
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:38 PM   #3
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I've been finishing the basement too. So it's kinda like everything is a nail to a hammer. I'm in woodworking mode.

Sandwiched Kerdi board. Will have to look into that.

You wouldn't happen to have a picture before the tile, would you?
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Your biggest concern would be the cantilever. Imagine someone standing on the edge of bench to do who knows what. I wouldn't just nail or screw to wood frame. You want to transfer that leverage into a bigger area on framing.

Even though the seat might be solid, it could conceivably lever a stud into a bow. Use steel, overbuild, plan for worst!

Somewhere on this site someone posted a pic of a bench with the bottom angled back to wall/floor intersection...very cool looking to my eye. I gotta do that before I die.
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Old 03-24-2017, 06:26 PM   #6
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That bowing out of a stud has given me slight pause. I wouldn't want the bench to collapse but I also wouldn't want it cracking tile up the wall of there is movement of any kind (even without a catastrophic collapse).

I was going to do a recessed niche along the entire length of the wall too. Talk about weakening the structure.

Regardless of whether it's wood or Kerdi and steel. I need to think about keeping that wall from moving in the slightest.
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Why not just use a better bench????
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:59 PM   #8
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Read something about the better bench needing support in the middle when spanning over 36".

For the record my bench would be supported on 3 sides so not a true cantilever.
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In that case, I think you could easily do mid L bracket supports and let the side walls do the heavy lifting.
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Any particular supports you recommend? I can do them under a better bench or are we talking through (sandwiched in either a BB or Kerdi).
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Since you are wall to wall, a piece of angle iron along the front would solve all the problems. You could do a single piece of 2 inch kerdi board
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I would build this with 3/4" plywood, with the sides of the plywood box extending all the way into the wall, to allow plenty of surface area for attachment. A glued and screwed plywood box is tremendously strong, especially if you double up some of the load bearing bits.
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Old 03-24-2017, 09:49 PM   #13
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Thanks folks. Lots of ideas for me to experiment with.

Anyone have experience with speed slope? Doing a linear drain on concrete. Need to feather the mud bed down to nothing or 1/8th inch or so. I know a typical deck mud preslope won't feather down that low.

Will post pics later once I'm done jack hammering 5' of floor.
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not for sure...but Paul's idea of 2" Kerdi board and the following profile across face of board, tile top and bottom, and lock it into the three walls as tile goes up ( like a corner shelf ) may just give you what you need. Probably need a triangular gusset under the "L" May want to check with a rep to get their blessing.
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I think Schluter makes a 2 inch wide C shaped metal thingee for this and may have a profile to make both pretty curved edges at the same time.

Worth a look and you can brush up on your German while flipping through the catalog.
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