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Old 09-04-2017, 03:20 PM   #16
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I agree with the masses, don't pay the remainder and prepare for small claims court. The work is slightly below DIY and he should be ashamed of it.
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Old 09-04-2017, 03:35 PM   #17
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Travis, Skoldsie hasn't given us the dollar amount for labor, just that the materials have cost 650.00.
I thought i saw that she paid half and that it was 650. But who cares

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Old 09-04-2017, 04:53 PM   #18
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No, the $650ish was the material. I have paid him half of his labor also.

It should ABSOLUTELY have been a huge red flag that I had to walk him through the waterproofing. Totally my responsibility. You just get so far in to a job and you just want it done. I know I made the wrong decisions and I own that. (and I am beating myself up with every extra dollar I am spending here)

The part that makes me the most upset is not even the money that I'm out. It's the fact that he still feels like he can take me to court. He says I made the work environment too hostile for him to come back and fix it. Eh, hostility isn't me explaining that your tile job rots. His feelings were hurt. I'm a woman and he just couldn't take the criticism.
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Old 09-04-2017, 06:06 PM   #19
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Was there a contract? Just curious.
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Old 09-04-2017, 06:28 PM   #20
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If this guy gets paid one more dime I'm going to question why I try so hard.
That is a hack if I have ever seen one.

Ryan.... The guy hacked up other work in the OP's house, a contract is nowhere in the picture.
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Old 09-04-2017, 06:36 PM   #21
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The part that makes me the most upset is not even the money that I'm out. It's the fact that he still feels like he can take me to court. He says I made the work environment too hostile for him to come back and fix it. Eh, hostility isn't me explaining that your tile job rots. His feelings were hurt. I'm a woman and he just couldn't take the criticism.

He has to know that he messed up or he is crazy. He isn't going to take you to court. He is just trying to get you to pay up. Stand your ground.




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Old 09-04-2017, 06:39 PM   #22
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The only way that guy could fix anything would be to tear it all out but I would not trust him to do that. I would call the tile police and tell them your tile has been molested. With all the evidence I am sure he would be found guilty. As punishment I think he should be required to wear a shirt at all time that says I AM A TILE MOLESTER.
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Old 09-04-2017, 09:23 PM   #24
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We actually do have a contract!
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What are the terms of the contract?
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:11 AM   #26
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Let him try to sue you.

When you hire someone else, take pictures all along the way, including demolition to reveal all the problems if he ever follows through and sues you.

IN my home state of Texas, filing a property lien improperly carries a $10,000 fine.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:27 AM   #27
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The terms of the contract include:
1/2 down up front
job (tile, plus 3 other small jobs, he completed 1.5 of those-and not that well) to be completed in 8 business days (nope, didn't happen)
It did have the steps of how to prep the area, including waterproofing-but I made him add that.

I sent him a final email, with more pictures telling him that I would be sending HIM an invoice with the balance of what I am out at this point. I was polite about it, very factual and included detailed pictures. I have video also.

He has not responded. I will absolutely take him to small claims, though I doubt he is collectable. It's like someone said earlier-someone has to put a stop to this. He can't treat people this way.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:44 AM   #28
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Skoldsie, you're likely to find that your Court of Small Claims (you don't have a geographic location in your User Profile so we don't know what court that would be) will be of benefit to you only in the collection of actual damages.

That would require that you have the installation removed and replaced or repaired and be able to verify the cost to you for such remediation. You would need to be able to demonstrate that the existing installation was not up to contemporary professional standards in the first place and that your contractor refused to make it so.

The maximum limit to such Small Claims Court awards in my fair State is $5,000. Your state will also have an upper limit.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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What was the determining factor in choosing that contractor? Price?
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:15 PM   #30
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I think OP said this wasn't the cheapest bid. If only paying more actually guaranteed anything. Seems like you have to go look at prior work in order to trust that someone is going to do something right and you had better make sure you actually get the person doing the work and not some random rotation of subs.

It really is a crap shoot these days.
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