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Old 01-09-2018, 05:02 PM   #1
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Downstairs vanity project

I have an unused 3x5 sheet of 1/2" (I think. Same as I used on my shower wall) Hardibacker.

It was stored outside on my uncovered patio. Been there since Summer 2013 I think.
No de-lamination, but it has mold growing on it in a localized area.

I need a piece of hardi for a vanity countertop.
Can I clean this piece off with bleach and use it or do I need to throw it out and get a new sheet?
I cannot find information yea or nay on this kind of thing.

While I'm pondering whether to use that hardi, would it be better to just forget the hardi and use
Ditra over plywood? 3/4" and 5/8" exterior grade I think with 1/8" ditra?

I'm not going to use the edge profiles, but I have watched the Schluter countertop video
and I like the ease of using Ditra and not having to cut cement board.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 01-09-2018, 05:36 PM   #2
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Well you can't just use cbu so you'd need plywood under it as well. I would just get a new piece if that's the route you want to go.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:45 PM   #3
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True. I need the plywood, but I can have that cut at Home Depot.
The CBU at 3x5 is too big for my neighbor's minivan. He can put down the two back seats. The wood I will have cut for 22" x 4 feet (21.5" = depth as my existing countertop). But they will not cut a 3x5 sheet of hardi down. Their stated policy is they will not cut any fiber or cement board. :-/
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It's $10. Go buy a new sheet. Score and snap it like drywall.
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Use Ditra and save a lot of work.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:17 PM   #6
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I cannot get a 5 foot length of hardi in the minivan.
Even with the seats down I don't think there is room.
That is the bottom line. If I cannot get it home it
complicates the purchase a bit. That is why I wanted to try
and use the hardi I have.

I'm seriously considering the ditra now. I bought my Kerdi by the foot
back in 2014. They had Ditra too. I'm hoping that store is still there
and stocks it. Or get it online and the warranty be damned.
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Score it and snap it in the parking lot. With the back seats down 5 feet ought to fit, anyway. My Rav4 carried a twin mattress, with the gate closed.
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Put it on the roof and strap it it down I have seen much worse
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:07 AM   #10
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Been ages since I have been here and my still-pending floor project downstairs has been unfinished for 20 months now. I still have to get on to that but I been busy with other crapola.

I spent first 1/2 of last year going to court and various other BS with my now-ex, crazy neighbor (remember her?).

I became the HOA President in 2015 through succession. She was living in her unit rent-free since 2011 where
she lost the unit ownership to a bank foreclosure. The HOA dues were not being paid. We moved to foreclose on the owner at the end of 2015 following the end of the appeal of her suit vs the bank and that owner.
At the 11th hour she purchased the unit (without paying off the debt at title transfer as required by law or inquiring of how much was owed) in a private sale. TX law says the owner is personally responsible for the debt. The debt is on the land and follows ownership. She would not pay and we moved to foreclosure. Being the vexatious litigant she is she sued to avoid paying the debt. She also named me personally along with another board member. Luckily we had very good attorneys.
She lost to five different judges all of whom gave her no relief; two temporary injunctions, one JP eviction and County
court judge then the trial judge.

In February last year we evicted her, and in March went to trial where after seating a jury she pulled a no-show on 2nd day
of the trial. The judge would not allow a continuance so through her attorney she took a $11400 settlement.
The $11400 was to be the only thing at issue before the jury after all was done (the judge dismissed all her ~25 other
claims as merit-less) as she had also been board president and claimed we owed her that much for being "property manager".
With all the above drama I was wiped for rest of the year being it was June by the time it was finished with selling the unit for $70650 and cleared only $59k which we have slated for repaving our crumbling driveways...

Now it's 2018 and time for me to get moving on the backlog. The downstairs bathroom is where I am beginning.
I have a plumber coming Thursday to change the stops under the sink to 1/4 shut offs.
I will build and tile the countertop, paint and put in a new light. Fully updating the old bathroom.
I'm still on the fence of CBU or Ditra for the countertop. It's about cost in the end. I think I can get Ditra from where I got my Kerdi before. The store was an authorized schluter dealer in town too.

And I'm also the HOA President and de facto property manage so I must divide my time between my own projects and the many outdoor projects that the HOA needs me to do. Including rebuilding a bunch of fences which I hope to get underway in the Spring while it's still somewhat cool.
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smifwal Put it on the roof and strap it it down I have seen much worse
I supposed I could try that. I am not sure that would work too well but maybe...
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Moldy counter sounds gross.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:58 AM   #13
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Obo2 Moldy counter sounds gross.
No. I was going to bleach it thoroughly. If Hardi is impervious resistant to moisture penetration that should kill
surface mold leaving nothing behind and be OK but... I'll just use some Ditra or new Hardi.
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So how do I dispose properly of Hardi? Can I just bust it up and put it out for regular trash?
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:26 AM   #15
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Question Please change this thread to - "Downstairs Vanity Project"

So I'll keep my questions here as is customary and hope a mod will
change the project thread name as above.... TIA

So I know I will use exterior 3/4" and probably 5/8" plywood plus
hardi or same plus Ditra. 1.5" countertop thickness is goal I believe.

So what grade and product from Home Depot am I looking for exactly?
Someone give me a link to what is normally used?

The Home Depot website shows a crap load of 3/4" plywood of several species but it's all 4x4 "project panels" not what I was kinda expecting to end up with which is a 4x8 sheet that I would ask them to cut down to 4x24. 5/8" plywood is is not listed at all only 5/8" particleboard which is not an option. Seems everything not plywood is OSB.
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