Ft Hood shooting

[madronatile]

Real nice deepwater. Rag-heads and Japs, eh? Friendliest forum on the internet, as long as you look like us.


Edit- I don't think dave's feelings are representative of this forum. but if shaughnn gets a reprimand and he doesn't i'll be a little worried.

[Davestone]

A reprimand for what?

[Shaughnn]

Matt,
Let me clarify that I wasn't reprimanded. John rightly asked me to "take a breather" as this conversation is headed into the toilet, just like all the rest of them, and I don't need to be wasting my time trying to herd hawgs.
Have fun storming the trailer!,
Shaughnn

[sandbagger]

Also another reason every american needs to carry a firearm....

Forget "every American" for a minute (not that I disagree, mind you).

Is the irony of this event not obvious? Think about it. A military base full of trained military personnel, and not a single one of them with a loaded gun. Except the bad guy, of course. But isn't that always the case?

And of course the other irony - it took a civilian to save the soldiers.

What the %#+^#*& is going on here?

[Davestone]

On one hand you have the unarmed military to protect the civilian community,from the untrusted military,and the armed civilians to protect the military.Very strange indeed.I suspect it was to prevent something like this.No, i take that back,if they were protecting themselves the military would be armed,i think they were protecting the civilians from the Army.If we don't have an armed border, and we don't seem to want to stop intrusions,then we must assume they were keeping the military in place.

[cx]

Originally Posted by madronatile

Real nice deepwater. Rag-heads and Japs, eh? Friendliest forum on the internet, as long as you look like us.

I feel sure deepwater has gotten the hint here, Matt, and will tailor his comments to better reflect the policies of this forum.

We don't care what opinions you hold, nor that you care to express some that might not be popular, but we do expect all to be civil in their presentation of those opinions.

[sandbagger]

Friendliest forum on the internet, as long as you look like us.

"us" being this motley crew? Having seen some of these folks close up and personal, that is a truly frightful thought.

[cx]

Hey!

[jjwq8]

Perspective on "Ragheads".

I choose to live and work in the middle east and my family qualify as "raghead".

The term "Allah Akbar" is used in normal conversations in Arabic and 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of those using it are not rabid extremists as the various citations in this thread appear to suggest. I use it myself on occasion to denote any number of different feelings and emotions and often to describe the inestimable beauty of the common and mundane as well as the heart-stoppingly wonderful.

"Allah Akbar" is not a rallying cry to arms and it is not the preserve of "ragheads", moslem radicals or any of the diverse cultures that have embraced Islam. My family is Christian and Moslem both. We all use the phrase. Allah is the Arabic word for God. Christian and Moslem.

Describing those who commonly use the term as "ragheads" has as much validity and relevance as my calling all those who do not, "shitheads".

[ceramictec]

isnt Allah Akbar on the Iraq or Saudi flag ?
I remember something like that.
God is great, meaning Allah or Mohammad

[jjwq8]

The recent addition to the Iraqi flag was a somewhat cynical (imho) attempt by the Baathist Regime (read Saddam) to give themselves some kind of religious legitimacy that they never actually followed through on. Given the nature of the beast it is inconceivable that any subsequent regime would dream of removing the words from the national emblem.

The Saudi flag has the phrase "There is no God but God and Mohammed is the Messenger (Prophet) of God" upon it. "LayhAllah il Allah wa Mohammed al Rasoul Allah", forgive my attrocious anglicized attempt at spelling it out.

Essentially the same message though the Iraq statement that God is Great is clearly more secular, in keeping with the previous regime.

[deepwater]

Within ten years we will be having the same problem Israel is having. Muslim Jihad blowing their selves up on busses, train stations and other public places.

Why do they do it? For 100 virgins and a false god

[jjwq8]

Dave,
Forgive me whilst i make a number of assumptions about you.

You carry a "Christian" name and i will thus assume you are a Christian.

The Moslem God is no more false than the one you as a Christian nominally acknowledge.

The religions of the Book, namely Judaism, Christianity and Islam all submit to the same One God.

Jihad requires the issue of a Fatwa. Jihad has already been declared and the person responsible for the Fatwa may or may not still be alive. You may know him as Osama Bin Laden.

That there are not thousand s of Jihadis creating havoc and mayhem on the streets of the US is testament to the credence US Moslems put in the word of Mr. Bin Laden. None.

Since I have assumed you to be a Christian I will remind you that your words are particularly un-Christian and admonish you to read more of the Book of Proverbs. Specifically the one that states:

"It is oft better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and leave no doubt."

[deepwater]

Im sure there is a certain percentage that are "peaceful" but until the muslim world does some internal house cleaning I have to error on the side of "thinset never bonds to wood"

Of couse they blow their own fellow Muslims up in Iraq and Pakistan so I guess they don't discriminate

[deepwater]

Muslims have tried very hard to convince us that they and Christians/Messianic believers worship the same god. But, do we really? The true Creator of the world - the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - has a name, YHWH (Yahweh), while "Allah" merely means "god". YHWH sent His Son to offer Himself as the Final Sin Sacrifice for the world, thus discontinuing the need for animal sin sacrifices. In other words, Yeshua (God Incarnate) died for US, while Allah expects us to die for HIM! Furthermore, the Koran (whose "scriptures" were "borrowed" from the Torah and then twisted to suit Mohammed's opinions) contradicts the harmonious teachings of both the Old and the New Covenants. YHWH, through Yeshua - performed many miracles on Earth, while Mohammed never even performed ONE. YHWH sent an aspect of Himself to Earth in human form in order to teach us how to properly worship God, how to treat each other according to HIS will, and then to offer His Son as the Final Sin Sacrifice so that ALL might gain eternal life.

No, we do NOT worship the same god! The bottom line is, Islam is a part of the religion of the Anti-Christ. The word "Allah" came from the name "Al-Ilah", which is the ancient name for the moon-god. Most mosques feature a moon crescent on their roofs, as do the flags of many Muslim countries. Do the contents of the Bible - which preceded Islam by THOUSANDS of years - ever show that YHWH condoned the worshiping of "moon-gods"?


http://www.therefinersfire.org/challenging_islam.htm