Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Tile Forum/Advice Board

Sponsors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-22-2013, 03:34 PM   #1
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Custom reducer ramp with Schlüter pan scraps?

Hi all,
I'm not a tile pro, but have done a lot of tiling and research on materials & methods and use the TCNA guidelines.

I'm putting in marble basketweave mosaic on bathroom floor (100 y/o house, floor was out 1-3/16" over 6 ft.). Floor didn't meet deflection requirements, so had joists sistered, floor leveled: new subfloor (3/4" AdvanTech ) with 1/2" AC ply underlayment. Using Nobleseal TS over that, but floor height difference is approaching 2" between bathroom and hallway.

So, to transition floor heights, I need to do a ramp of some sort. I put in a Schluter shower pan, trimmed to fit, so I have edge pieces leftover. I thought I could cut a bevel on it with my table saw, install with thinset and tile over it or have a marble threshold fabricated to lay over it.

Would any of you ever consider this kind of "hack" for a bathroom entrance? Or is this just a silly idea? What would you do?

Wanted to get your input. Many thanks. (Please be kind!)
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 12-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #2
HomeTeam
One horsepower
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Algonac, Michigan
Posts: 112
Schluter makes a foam ramp that tapers down from 1-1/2" thick to almost nothing; with about 14" of slope
Or you could do mud
__________________
Jim
HomeTeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2013, 10:16 PM   #3
Bodie Powers
Retired cabinet maker/remodeler
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Three Rivers, Oregon
Posts: 1,339
2" is a sizable drop entering a hallway. An attempt to extend a transition beyond a couple inches could create a trip hazard for someone walking down the hallway. On the other hand shortening up the transition will create an awkward, abrupt step up from hallway to bathroom.

Tile likes flat, doesn't care about level. Would it have been possible to flatten the floor without creating that 2" height difference?
__________________
Bodie

Last edited by Bodie Powers; 12-22-2013 at 10:43 PM.
Bodie Powers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2013, 03:35 PM   #4
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Hi and thanks for the feedback!

The Schlüter ramp was what gave me the idea, but wasn't sure if it would be suitable at a doorway as opposed to a shower entrance. (My next thought was to create a little ramp with sand/cement mix, and tile over that, but I figured why buy a huge, heavy bag for such a tiny area - I'm a petite woman and try to work smart, but if that's what I have to do, I will).

In hindsight, I guess just flattening would've worked, but it's done now. (I did consult a structural engineer and followed his recommendation), so it is what it is. I wasn't going to extend into the hallway, just ramp down over the 4-1/2" width of door frame that I have to work with, with either a cut/beveled white marble threshold or with white marble tile. I was trying not to use wood, since marble is in keeping with the 1917 house.




Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 11:06 AM   #5
gsr
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 471
Rebecca, which is higher the bathroom floor or the hall?
__________________
Geoff
gsr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 11:29 AM   #6
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Geoff,

The bathroom floor is higher. It's the floor that was corrected to allow for the marble mosaic installation.

Thanks for any input!
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:38 PM   #7
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
For the benefit of others in this situation I ended up using a "mini mudbed" as the base for my ramp. The Schluter pan scraps just crumbled as I tried to rip them down to the pitch I needed. Wasn't worth the trouble.

My solution was to set down a scrap of Nobleseal CIS with Noble adhesive I had left over. Then I used sand topping mix to fashion a pitched ramp, let it set up overnight, and thinset a Hollywood beveled reducer into place. Epoxy grouted the joint between the floor and threshold. Owners are happy with the solution and have no tripping issues with the mini-ramp.

Photos to follow.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:40 PM   #8
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Nobleseal CIS
Name:  image.jpg
Views: 1957
Size:  31.1 KB
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:43 PM   #9
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Hollywood Bevel Reducer (taped while setting up)

Name:  image.jpg
Views: 2620
Size:  26.6 KB
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:59 PM   #10
cx
da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
 
cx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
Posts: 85,155
Hope that works out for y'all.

Whole lot steeper than industry standards allow, for sure.

Is that stone threshold piece just floating above the wood floor?
__________________
CX

Y'ALL NEW VISITORS READ THIS HERE!
cx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:44 AM   #11
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by cx
Whole lot steeper than industry standards allow, for sure.

Is that stone threshold piece just floating above the wood floor?
Thanks for your comment, cx.

For sure, it's not ideal. My constraint was that the hallway of the 100-year-old house is relatively narrow and the owner didn't want a longer-sloped ramp jutting out into the hall, which would've created another trip hazard. I walked through the doorway many times to install fixtures and trim, and asked owners how it's going. Luckily, had no issues with the steepness.

Threshold is over Nobleseal and a sand cement mix base, but that is the original T&G floor which is also the subfloor. Interested to learn how you would've dealt with this because I may be facing the same situation again soon.
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 01:13 PM   #12
cx
da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
 
cx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
Posts: 85,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebecca
Threshold is over Nobleseal and a sand cement mix base, but that is the original T&G floor which is also the subfloor.
Yes, I see that, but my question was about the attachment, or lack thereof, of your threshold piece to the board flooring. Did you attempt to attach it there or just let the edge sit on or above the boards?
__________________
CX

Y'ALL NEW VISITORS READ THIS HERE!
cx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:22 PM   #13
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
I see. No. Not mechanically attached. Floating, as you said. What would you use to attach it?
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:26 PM   #14
cx
da Home-builder -- Moderator-at-Large
 
cx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
Posts: 85,155
I would not have attached it at all to the board floor.
__________________
CX

Y'ALL NEW VISITORS READ THIS HERE!
cx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:43 PM   #15
Beccabode
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 20
What would you have done differently if you faced the same problem? I want to do things correctly, so I truly appreciate your feedback.
__________________
Rebecca
Beccabode is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com   National Gypsum Permabase


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Patio from Free 1" Granite Scraps Dave Travertine Tile Forum/Advice Board 28 10-01-2010 04:10 PM
Kerdi Scraps Floorit Professionals' Hangout 7 12-27-2009 11:40 AM
threshold, saddle, reducer strip, overlay reducer dshnlng Tile Forum/Advice Board 3 03-20-2005 10:23 AM
Anybody used Schlüter®-REMA? drew Tile Forum/Advice Board 6 12-24-2002 07:10 AM
Sheet Mounted Mosiac Tile Scraps Robert Villa Professionals' Hangout 4 06-13-2002 04:21 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:49 PM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2014 John Bridge & Associates, LLC