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Old 05-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #31
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Honestly i don't think we could hold it to 24x24.I've set 2x4 porcelain, and 3x3 stone, both went fairly well, but a pain.
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:23 PM   #32
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I vote for 24'' x 24'' .

Is it just me or those 12'' x 12'' look really small ?
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:36 AM   #33
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I vote for 24" as well. Yes many a you have set bigger and so have I. We'll put that in the category of manufacturers making large flat things over 24" that are a PITA to install, not talking slabs here either. When you start talking of stuff that size as mentioned flat surfaces to anything bigger should have a tag on it = mud floor for installation a must. Designing it an selling it is one thing, again manufacturers not worried about how it gets put in just that they make their profit selling it. A very small percentage of the people are gonna be able to use this so a small percentage of the market. Making porcelain bigger and bigger is kinda like the price of gold, keeps getting bigger.... levels out.... drops back down and the buzz is over till the next show or time
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:15 AM   #34
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I did a 2800 sf floor install with 1/2" thick 24x24's. My arms weren't long enough. I needed suction cups and a sky hook.

Add one vote for 12x12's
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:36 AM   #35
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Actually Jon, you are talking slabs. That's what we are figuring out. What is a tile and what is a slab.

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:51 AM   #36
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Yes roger that Jason, I equate slabs to more thicker material. To me these are large format tiles. Not thick enough to be slabs unless there is no requirement for minimum thickness. I equate slabs to 2 cm, 3cm, etc. According to Gerald Sloan from the NTCA large format tiles are anything over 14 or 16" something like that so I would consider these large format tiles not slabs unless a slab has no requirement for minimum thickness

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It will be interesting. Neither the materials or installation methods are very predictable at this point.
With this statement being made I'll pass. Not even predictable by "the Man."

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I did a 2800 sf floor install with 1/2" thick 24x24's. My arms weren't long enough. I needed suction cups and a sky hook.
I know they make extend-O-drains don't they have extend-O-arms?
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:10 AM   #37
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If we call them porcelaine sheets ....hmmm...... it really sounds like not to be part of the tile industry .

Some porcelaine '' tiles '' --- 24'' x 48'' --- are almost as thick as a regular marble slab . 9/16'' vs 11/16'' , I don't know , let's define them

Porcelaine slab sheets
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:16 AM   #38
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if you select a size, your going to have to select a thickness also
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:37 AM   #39
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So John, are you saying 4 sq ft? I had a 9"x36" tile "plank" job not too long ago. Would those be considered tiles?

Here's my question: What would I do differently in installing a 24" tile and a 36" tile? And yet they would be classified differently. Why classify them differently if the installation method is the exact same?

If you want to mechanically fasten a slab to a wall, this would be under the slab installation method. If you want to adhere it to a wall, you would use tile installation methods. Wouldn't the installation method, and not the shape of the material, dictate what it is?
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:02 AM   #40
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Four square feet, yes. Thickness has nothing to do with it. Tiles have always been of different thicknesses. You've got thin bricks and brick pavers, for example.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #41
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Jim I would say there is a big difference between 2x2 and 3x3 tile. 3x3 requires 2 people to set. It is also much more difficult to level with the previous tiles when 2' is usually as far as we can comfortably reach across our wet tile. Even though a 3x3 only seems like 1 small foot bigger, it is really more than twice as big overall as a 2x2, and more than twice as heavy. 3x3 are backbreakers!
No matter what installation method you use for slab, even if you are thinsetting it down to an entry floor, it is still called slab instead of tile, and people still expect to pay closer to slab rates than tile rates.
John I agree that 4 sf is a better dividing line than 24x24, because of the type of planks that Jim mentioned.
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Tom Hulse? I don't think you realize that you know who you are talking to. Is this Tom or Tommy? I'll send you a pm.

Talk about a blast from the past.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:14 PM   #43
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if you select a size, your going to have to select a thickness also
Brian might have a good point here. What about 2x2x3cm remnants from the granite shop? How about 2cm?

Tile or slab?
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:55 PM   #44
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Anything over 20 inches -SLAB.

Anything 20 inches and under -TILE.

No matter the thickness.

I mean how thick could it be - 3/4 inch is the thickest I ever seen and it was 16x16.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:58 PM   #45
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Maybe something like- 24x24 or 48x 1/2 or less of the length is tile, anything more, sadistic.
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