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Old 04-15-2012, 08:49 PM   #31
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BUT...... do we know how hard I worked on this? It seemed very difficult for me to screed and get things level.... I've asked before, but any tips or tricks on screeding? Would I be better off just finding the bags of the pre-mixed stuff you guys mentioned earlier? How much would someone charge me just to do that top layer?

Hey Paul, Houston is not too far from San Antonio... case you want to come help me out!!!!
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:59 PM   #32
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Take some mud and make a level screed around the perimeter at the needed height. Then you can fill in the center. With wood sticks, rake the extra mud back keeping one end of the stick pointed at the drain at all times. Work your way around the drain. The stick in this picture is notched the tile thickness to help hold the mud down at the drain.
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My MIL lives in Elmendorf but we won't be there for a few three more weeks. Although a little shower pan job would be a great excuse to get me away from the 6 sisters nice way for me to get some decent karma points.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:37 PM   #34
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Paul, I've been waiting four months already... another three weeks won't hurt me!!!

Okay, let's talk about how to get the right mixture.... I used the calculator on here to figure out what I needed, but what's the best way to go about getting the pounds right? I would put the bag on my bathroom scale, measure it, then pour it out and measure again until I got about the right amount... is that a feasible way of doing it? I'm dumping everything in a big plastic mixing pan, then adding a big cup of water at a time and using a hoe to stir the whole thing around... then when it stays together like sandcastle type sand, I plop it in the shower.... does all of that sound about right?

What about the pre-mixed bags like was mentioned earlier? Should I just go that route? Thanks for any tips!
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:12 PM   #35
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Hi Josh, if you are going to mix your own, use 4 scoops of sand to one scoop of portland. I always use the deck mud in the bag, it's way easier for me to use than trying to get sand and mix my own.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:59 PM   #36
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Alrighty..... where exactly do I find this pre-mixed mud stuff at? I searched for the Laticrete 3701 on Home Depot and Lowes websits, but nothing found... is there another brand or something that I can be looking for? Where would I find the Laticrete 3701 here in San Antonio? Please keep in mind that "the tile place" to me means Home Depot or Lowes.... I normally fix computers, not showers...
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Hi Josh, you need to go to a REAL tile store, not Home Creepo. Maybe Paul would know of one in that area.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:30 PM   #38
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Bumping this back up.... Any other input? Trying to find the pre-mixed deck mud..... Thanks! I
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:40 PM   #39
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Our Lowe's here carry Mapei 4 to 1 deck mud. I much prefer raw sand from a local brick yard and portland cement but I tried it once and it worked okay. The sand was a little too fine for my liking. 13 bucks for a 50 pound bag though.

Home depot sells bagged all purpose sand. Not the washed play sand, it will work but is too fine I think. You can use that with portland mixed 5 to 1. I think you'll find it much easier to screed than sand mix. You have to mix the 2 really well then add water.

I keep a wet stash in my shed for shower pans.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:50 AM   #40
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Laticrete 209?

I am about to re-do my top layer of my shower pan (this will be try number 3) and this time I got the Laticrete 209 to eliminate any mixing ratio issues....

I was reading the install instructions for the 209 on their website and they say to put down a slurry bond coat before the 209.... do I need to do this on top of my rubber liner? I did not do a slurry bond coat when I was just doing the sand topping/sand mix.... thanks for any input....
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Agreed. 209 is good stuff and I use it alla time for mud pans. A slurry under the preslope, but not needed on top of the liner.....
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Laticrete 209 awesome stuff, this was left over in a bucket I dumped out about 5 hours after putting it in. Bout 12 inches thick here I would feel confident bout using this for a bench almost like this one. What is the reason you have to keep doing finished bed? three's a charm right This was leftover from a mud bed I did, 209 is all I use for beds.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:33 AM   #43
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Well, the first time I did the whole thing and then did a leak test and it failed.... so I ripped it all out and did it again. Now this second time I did it I ended up with a sandy loose top... after coming back here and asking opinions and posting some pictures, the recommendation was to rip that out and start over...

So here I am. That's why I am using the laticrete so that hopefully I won't/can't mix it wrong and won't have to do this again..... This is now at an almost 5 month long project and the wife would really like for me to finish....
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A little confused here. You said you did "The Whole Thing" and then did a leak test. Do you mean after the preslope/liner/final slope or just the preslope and liner? Should, of course be done just after the liner...

As to it being "sandy," sounds as though it was either mixed too dry or not packed down well enough.

Although I won't get much agreement here on this, when I use the 209, I like to mix it a bit wetter than called for. A little harder to work the mix, but I find it "packs" better...then use a steel trowel to smooth out the surface until it's a bit damp.

Any irregularities or trowel marks can be smoothed out the next day with a rubstone. Solid as a rock.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:01 PM   #45
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Caulking inside shower - Can't find colored caulk

Hey all..... trying to finish this bathroom project up. It' been almost a year since I ripped it out and I'm kind of close to finishing it... finally (obviously I work slow...).

Anyhoo, I am trying to finish the shower... I have it tiled and grouted and now I need to caulk the inside corners. I bought the caulk that matches my grout (both made by North American Adhesives) but the caulk says that it is NOT for use in areas prone to constant water exposure. That tells me that it's not for use inside my shower, at least not at the floor to wall part.

So what is the trick? The only 100% waterproof caulk I can find only comes in white and clear, and that definitely won't look right. What do you pros do? Surely there's an answer here right? Any help would be appreciated... thanks!
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