gas prices

[mark11755]

Daniel, I spent the first 48-1/2 years of my life in OC. Just moved here last June. I have about 30 people that work for me in Holland and another 25 in the UK and France. I live the European model. It's interesting.....

I'll be back in the US one day.

[java]

Nice to see you Todd. Long time.

Why do you assume to be above it but nobody else here is? You said:


Anybody starting to feel like ya'll have been SOLD OUT

Your government wouldnt LIE TO YOU would they???


I would change those qualifiers to WE and US because your right here with us.

And also, we got a strong Ron Paul front here on the JB Forums. For sure you see how his message stands in stark contrast to the status quo. Join us here http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=94009

And donate to the good Dr. here: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

[MudMaker]

Originally Posted by Mark

I'll be back in the US one day.

Sure hope so.... I know you're livin the dream, but you can do it over here too....

Or move to New Zealand with us when things really get bad here....

[ob1kanobee]

I feel this video explains A LOT in simple terms and hits on what Mr. Bridge talks about with the speculators:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtecD...0ZjYjQ&lf=plcp

[Davestone]

And this hits on the inflation and devaluation of the dollar, and the demise of it being used to buy oil,plus a lot of other politics from a very smart guy..http://theinternationalforecaster.co...ss_Destruction

[Higher Standard Tile]

Originally Posted by Daniel

I pay about $200/month in gas and almost $300 in health insurance.

Try $400/month for gas and $1300 for health insurance for healthy family of four. I would move to Canada if only they could do something about the weather.

Actually here to report on something I tried today. 0% Ethanol gas they are selling at one gas station on Maui. Regular 87 gas with 10% corn ethanol is $4.51 a gallon. The 100% pure gasoline (0 Ethanol) is 89 Octane and $4.61 a gallon.

My 5.0 V8 F-150 has been averaging 18.5 mpg (over 2500 miles) on normal 87 gas with 10% ethanol. That works out to $0.243 per mile fuel cost. Not bad for a full size truck.

Tried the 100% pure gasoline today. Drove home for 25 miles mainly highway, got 24.3 mpg average on trip computer. I'm sure it will reduce slightly, but that works out to $0.189 fuel cost per gallon. Even if I only got 1 mpg better I would be saving money at 10 cents extra per gallon.

I'm not here to discuss the politics of ethanol, but I've never gotten never gotten 24 mpg before! I will report back after I use a full tank.

[doitright]

Hi Isaac

Looking at your mileage you haven't even broken your truck in yet!

Outstanding mileage!

It's great that you can get by with a 1/2 ton truck. Big difference in the gear ratios, thus affecting the mileage.

With a Bully Dog GT Tuner, the best single trip I've gotten is 17 mpg. Running an 03 Chevy Express Van 3500 6.0. My winter average is closer to just under 12. Summertime is just over 13. Difference is warm up and idling time to get it to a temp just to get in the drivers seat!

[bulldog tile]

Isaac, I've been using ethanol free gas in my small engines - lawn mowers, 4 wheelers, utv - for some time and find that they perform better - in my mind anyway. After reading your truck's performance, I may have to rethink using ethanol free in my vehicles.

John, I know this is a dumb question but you have to remember, it rarely gets below 30 degrees where I live. What does extreme cold have to do with lowered gas milage? Here, it's difficult to live in the summers without air conditioning which really sucks the milage so I get my best milage in the cooler months.

[doitright]

Hi Donnie

I have a remote start and let the vehicle warm up anywhere from 10 -20 minutes (in extreme cold) before I'm willing to hop in the cab. Idle time destroys gas mileage. According to my gages (depending if the engine is warm or not) the engine is consuming .6 gallons per hour. It doesn't take too much idling to significantly lower gas mileage numbers.

[Tool Guy - Kg]

Hi Donnie,
It's not just idling the car like John does that robs you of gas mileage. I don't idle my truck and I have a roughly 10% decrease in mileage over the winter.

There's got to be other factors, but here's a few things that contribute to poorer mileage in the cold: the "winter blend" of gasoline we get doesn't produce as much energy as our "summer blend"; the higher viscosity of all the lubricants in a cold engine increases drag; colder engines call for richer gas/air mixtures; colder tires have more rolling resistance; and while we have control over this last one, we often overlook it - the drop in temps lower the tire pressure which adds even more to the tire's rolling resistance.

[doitright]

Hi Kurt

I forgot about that darn winter blend! Under inflated tires? Not when you get up to highway speed. You and Musky know what I mean.

BTW, we're up to $3.999 for regular.

[bulldog tile]

Thanks for the responses John and Kurt. It never stays cold here long enough to experience most of that stuff. We have what is called a winter blend here but I doubt that it's like yours in really cold country.

Now if you want to talk about extreme heat and what that does to a motor.....

By the way gas prices at my go to filler upper today - $3.43

Here's a neat little map that you can zoom out and see gas prices over the whole country. It's probably on this thread somewhere else but I haven't seen it. It's pretty accurate for my area just wondering about other parts of the country.

http://www.wlbt.com/category/137941/gas-prices

[Davestone]

I've been reading about this for some time i think it is legitimate,and may solve part of the (fossil) fuel (crisis)....http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3952

[John Bridge]

During my contracting years in Houston I met and worked for a number of geologists, chemical engineers, rock engineers, seismic specialists and what have you in the business of finding and producing crude oil, Houston being world headquarters for much of the seismic industry. I've talked to a number of those folks who will agree that crude oil is not a fossil fuel. And if there is a consensus it is that there is no limit to the amount of oil that might be produced if we are prepared to go after it.

We have for the most part harvested the easy pickings on land, but we've only scratched the surface, as it were. By deep drilling we can produce well over the amount of crude needed to keep this country free from crude imports virtually forever.

[Davestone]

Think of the possibility of mixing calcium,iron oxide and electricity and produciing oil.