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Old 03-21-2011, 08:05 AM   #1
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Help with trim for niche!

I'm tiling my tub surround and a niche. My plan for the niche was to use bullnose pieces to make a picture frame around it, but in building the niche I inadvertently made the bottom too far from the wall tile beneath it, causing the 3 inch bullnose piece to not reach high enough. I decided to abandon the bullnose idea and instead beveled both the outside and inside niche tiles.

It just looks terrible, so I've come up with the idea of using trim pieces to cover up the now beveled edge, but I'm not sure if there is such a thing and if so, how to attach it to the porcelain.

Would using a slate chair rail look okay used as a casing?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:48 AM   #2
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Here are some illustrations of mating tiles for niches and making it look good, maybe it will give you some ideas?


...after a second read, are you trying to bond new tile to existing tile? like sink rail over the existing tile? maybe some pictures would help of your existing work.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:59 AM   #3
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Raymond,

I tried to do the mitering, like your third photo, but I ended up with too much of a gap between the two mitered pieces. I was attempting a 3/16th gap but I guess I didn't account for the thinset. I haven't yet grouted it, so id don't know how that's gonna end up. I'll take a photo in about an hour when I get home and attach it to my next response, however I'm pretty embarassed with how it looks.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:26 AM   #4
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Here's two that I have done:

Travertine half rounds in a mitered picture frame:

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White glazed base board tile, mitered at the inside corners:

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Old 03-21-2011, 10:43 AM   #5
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Here it is...don't laugh. I'm terrible at tile.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:44 AM   #6
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BayouBuilt, no need to be embarrassed there's always room for improvement!

From personal experience, I can say that it is _very_ hard to judge what your tile installation will look like until it is grouted, but this depends on many factors.

After having a look at the pics, if it seems decent maybe try grouting a bit of it, if it looks good, keep going, if not you can pull the grout out before it has cured and we can take some other steps.

I don't know what your schedule is or other details of your project, but generally speaking, it is better to stop and redo some work than to keep going down the wrong path and feel regret over not doing the best job possible.
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as to your pic, hard to see the detail, some closeups of what you consider the 'worst areas' would help.

personally however, I think grouting it could make it quite passable, a lot of 'shaping' of the grout would probably be neccesary; if you decide to take that route read the grouting tutorial in the 'liberry' in the blue bar at the top of the page; and go slow when tooling your joints, you want to achieve good looking contours.


...but some more detailed pictures of where the tiles meet (some angle shots for depth would be good) would really help.


cant see too much detail here, but this is a shower I've done (see attached)
you can see i just used some mitred rope border to close the gap between the wall tile and lap over the edge of the niche side wall tile.

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Old 03-21-2011, 11:05 AM   #8
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I like to do all my niches so that they fall into the layout of the tile so that you end up with factory edges the whole way around it. Then if for some reason there isn't bullnose available, the options are a little more open.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:11 AM   #9
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Can you pop the tiles inside the niche off and use some schluter rondec?
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I don't know how easy it would be to pop it off, since there's Kerdi under it. I would think it would tear fairly easy.
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is a thread with some of my niche pics. Pencils around the perimeter just like the pic several up. The half rounds look good in my opinion.
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I only like the bullnose on the inside of the niche,
not a fan of the "picture frame" on the outside of the niche.
throws off the field lines imo.

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