Darned Yankees stole one of our Seattle Mariners!

[fishinfarmgirl]

So we lost Nelson to our arch rivals...the New York Yankees. Makes no sense. Our main competitors need a closer or a setup guy and they take someone from their competition in the league? Hmmmm????

But then 'Nelly' DID go shootin' his mouth off about the M's not trading anyone before the deadline and all. Yadda yadda yadda. Maybe the upper office guys were sick of having a loose cannon and sent him back to where they got him!

Anyway...it's a moot point 'cause the SEATTLE MARINERS are gonna take the Yankees this year! (they'd BETTER!) :D

L

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[John Bridge]

The Mariners are exactly like the Stros. Play just enough baseball to keep from getting run out of town.

:)

[fishinfarmgirl]

It's been a pretty good season! Good group this year. I like the new head coach! I'm hopin' they can pull it off! But the competition is closing in!

L

[sdaniels7114]

Don't worry about the Yanks, they're done, they're toast, its pretty much all over for them, 'cept for the cryin'. Want proof, look at Georgie Porgie's comments from when we spanked 'em ten days ago. More proof, the Nelson trade. They are runnin' scared and are about to miss the playoffs for the first time since '95. Just be carefull about that arch rival talk, you want to be their arch rivals? You'll have to get in line.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Yea John but your Tex ass Stro's have done a pretty good job of gettin' us this season! :mad:

Sdaniels...so you're sayin the sox will take us huh???'

We'll just have to see. Maybe place bets for 3 bags of Versabond or some such! ;)

L

[Sonnie Layne]

There are mariners in Seattle?????? :D What the hay could they know about ketchin' fish?

[fishinfarmgirl]

:tongue: Hardy hardy har Sonnie...You'd better watch it or I'll come over to...where the heck is it ya live? Anyway...you'd better watch it or I'll...uh...errrr....do SOMETHIN'! :wtf:

L :D

[sdaniels7114]

Nelson's ERA with runners in scoring position is like 18 for the season. Benietez(sp?) has always been a choke artist. The trade deadline passed before this deal happened, which means any team in the AL east or AL west could have blocked it. Nobody cared. I can't say how Seattle's gonna do (I hope they do great THIS weekend) but the Yanks are done.

[fishinfarmgirl]

It frustrates the heck out of me. We (the Seattle Mariners) get juuuuuust about there and then can't seem to kickit all the way over the edge for the whole deal.

Don't know what it is. Same with the Soncis over the years and Football...yech...don't even....... :(

I know our pitching was awful a numebr of years ago...but we've pulled together a well rounded team at the moment. FABULOUS defensive team...and when they're in teh groove, damned good offensively as well. The Nelly deal didn't really bug me...just stirin' up trouble. I don't think his being gone is gonna have much, if any effect! We'll see.

L

[Derek & Jacqui]

Your lucky we lost Nelson to the French.:D

[fishinfarmgirl]

Well......TONIGHT'S game didn't go very well for the Mariner's. :(

Bummer! 2 errors cost them! BIG TIME!!!

L

[jjwq8]

That's it L,
We're sending you Nasser Hussain, recently retired captain of English cricket. He should fit right in coz he couldn't hit shit either!:shake:

Oops am I allowed to say that? :shake:

[fishinfarmgirl]

TODAY...

MARINERS-2
Yankees-1

PHEW!

Sorry flatfloor! Love ya...but this is BASEBALL after all!!! :D

L

[flatfloor]

I'm not a Yankee fan! how dare you!

BTW, do you remember where Nelson was (no, not in the British Navy) before he was a Mariner? He was a Yankee.

As far as Benitez is concerned you can have him. I don't want to start listing the key games he has blown for the Mets. The man cannot take pressure. Took the Yankees 3 weeks to figure that out.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Yea...I know Nelly came from the Yankees! And I have my concerns about who we got for him as well! Crap!

Oh well...I will say...Nelly did some nice pitching last night! Damn him!!! :(

L

[fishinfarmgirl]

Well...it was tight...wasn't sure they'd do it...but the m's took the series with da Yankees! :D

L

...and NELLY didn't pitch so great yesterday neither! ;)

[flatfloor]

Meanwhile back at Fenway.....:shake:

[fishinfarmgirl]

:(

L

[tomtuttle]

flatfloor, before Nelson was a yankee the first time, he was a mariner. M's traded him to the Yankees in about 1995 for Sterling Hitchcock I believe (another glory moment in Seattle Baseball history). :wtf: So this is the second time he has been traded from the M's to the yanks.

People get attached to Nelson because he is a quality setup guy, speaks his mind and is good in the community. That being said, they tried to use him as a closer this year and he just plain failed. Benitez has ~200 career saves, Nelson has ~20. Sasaki is hurt.

Arthur Rhodes is the only left handed Mariner reliever. BA this season for left handed hitters - vs. Nelson, .281; vs. Benitez .239.

BA this season with runners in scoring position, vs. Nelson .419; vs. Benitez .192

Seattle needs to GET TO the postseason; we can deal with the alleged Benitez big-game-blowup syndrome then.

On a really fundamental level, Seattle traded a pretty good 36 year old setup guy for a pretty good 30 year old closer. Neither one is signed for next year, so we also don't have to listen to Nelson whine in the offseason :cool:

Hope you're right about the Yankees. hate em hate em hate em.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Tom~

T-A-C-O-M-A????????? WTF????? Didn't ever notice you were a LOCAL boy! :D

Hey! We have another WARSH-INGTONIAN! ;)

Oh...and about BASEBALL...those A's need to sub a toe or two huh???

L

[sdaniels7114]

The Red Sox just had a huge victory in Oakland. Tied it in the ninth and won it in the tenth. Next: The Mariners. I foresee a serious case of whiplash for Moyer tomorrow, caused by him turning his head real fast to watch all the HR's depart.:stick:


The best part: Me getting to sleep at a reasonable hour. No ten o'clock game tonight.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Yea! Gotta love those Red Soxs coming back and taking the A's last night! :D

Thank you! :D

L

[fishinfarmgirl]

Ahem!

The Curse of the Bambino must still be around huh? :eek:

Seattle-10
Red Sox-5

I was holding my breath in the 6th and in the 8th! MAN! What a game! :D


I had a feeling Ichiro was gonna get a big one when he got up! What fun!

Oakland lost tonight...so that puts the Mariners ahead by 5 and I believe Boston rises in the wild card standing.

L

[flatfloor]

alleged Benitez big-game-blowup syndrome then.

Alleged... you want a list? Six blown saves in the post season not to mention regular season losses to Atlanta when the Mets were still competitive.
:(

[fishinfarmgirl]

BENITEZ??!!!??? Benitez??? :shades:

Gawd help us! He was freakin' me OUT!

PHEW! :eek:

L

~good to see you back Jim!

[flatfloor]

Thanks, no matter how many candles I had in the room this thing wouldn't work.:rolleyes:

[fishinfarmgirl]

CANDLELIGHT!???

Ooooo La La flatfloor! ;)

And Kathleen's home now too! :shades:

L

[sdaniels7114]

Another reason to keep the JB forum at the top of your favorites list: A ten-day old baseball thread with nary a Yankee fan in sight. PRICELESS :D

Now, If only Pedro Martinez could pitch on twenty hours of rest, as opposed to five days :cool:

[flatfloor]

Love Pedro, ESPECIALLY when he pitches inside. :)

[fishinfarmgirl]

ESPECIALLY when he pitches inside

YIKES! Skeery!!! Thought some of those guys were really gonna get it hard!

Sooooooo gang...Seattle Mariners got two in the series. :dance:

Anybody see that 98 MPH fast ball??? Whooo Hooo!

Now we'll see how the road trip goes! Gotta meet up with those guys again soon! :eek:

Best game in this series was the first! Exciting and nerve wracking! Gotta love it! Such a mental game! Very cerebral! ;)

L

[tomtuttle]

Steve - neener neener. :D :D :D Good thing Pedro pitched this series, eh?

ff - You're not bitter or anything, right?

Beautiful weekend in Safeco field!

[fishinfarmgirl]

ME? Bitter??? Why do you ask Tom??? I don't THINK I'm bitter. :confused:

L

[John Bridge]

I'm not really in this conversation, living in the town the Astros call home and all, but Linda, I think Tom might have been addressing Flatfloor. Do you have a guilty conscience? :D

[tomtuttle]

Linda - of course I don't think you're bitter! You are a ray of sunshine (and God knows we need more of those, specially in Warshington) :D:D

I was just commenting on flatfloor's obvious disdain of Benitez' post season performance. At least the Mets have been to several World Series. It's kind of like how WE feel about Jose Mesa. Any Phillies fans care to help pile in on Joe Table?

[flatfloor]

Speaking of past Mets glories :rolleyes: The local Mets channel is showing the Mets v (of all people) Houston Astros 86 playoff game. Mets won but really anybody could have, 16 innings of hard nosed, bite your nails baseball. Many, myself included, think it was the greatest post season game ever played.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Geez...SIXTEEN INNINGS???

Crazy! That was before I got hooked on the game...fortunately!

Yea John...about that guilty conscience....I'm gonna have to think on that eh???? :D

It WAS flatfloor that he meant after all! :D

And thank you Tom for you kind comment! Made me feel very special! But, speaking of sunsine...it's been a little toasty out here on the homefront for me! I wouldn't mind a few overcast days in a row about now!

L

[flatfloor]

Is it true that Seattle has a huge vampire population? :p

[fishinfarmgirl]

Vie Jeeem??? VIE do you ask? Ve like the darkness and gloom in Seattle. Wha ha ha! Ve love da moonlight in the fog!

Come closer dear...let me whisper in your ear so you'll understand the ways of the Northwest! WHA HA HA!!!!!

[jjwq8]

Well at your Avon Reps are better looking than ours!:D

[flatfloor]

Looks like Bill Gates to me. :D

[jjwq8]

:D
Nah Jim,
He's way scarier than that.
'sides ain't no sign of pie in any o' them whiskers. :shake:

[sdaniels7114]

So it's starting to look real likely that a team from MA will win the World Series:eek: The Little League World Series, that is.:D Tough break for the Texas boys, I thought they had it wrapped in the seventh. The kids from Saugus, MA move on to the Quarter finals, and they already beat their next oponent once in the semis. Man, those kids turn the DP better than the Sox.

[fishinfarmgirl]

Hey Steve I hear they took Martinez out of the game so he could pitch when we meet up with you! It's coming up! Should be an interesting series eh???

L

[sdaniels7114]

He reported flu like symptoms last night. That could be true or not. :rolleyes: Pedro is supremely effective on the mound; but, sometimes it's a bit of a process getting him there. He's bad on four day's rest, and when he goes significantly more than 100 pitches, he's bad on his next start. They adjusted things last week to make sure he'd pitch in both halves of a home and homer we have coming up against the Yanks. Nothing against the Mariners, but I doubt they'd mess that up just to move him from a start against Oakland to one against Seattle. Both those teams are contenders; but, it ain't personal. It's VERY, VERY personal against NY :mad:

Anyway, with the Sox loosing the first two against the A's at home, all of us in Red Sox Nation were looking to commit suicide yesterday. Two heartbreakers. They came up big tonight, hopefully that means they're ready for the Mariners. We'll see.

[John Bridge]

Why did you have to bring up '86, Jim? You like to torment people, don't you?

;)

[tomtuttle]

Big series this weekend between the M's and the Red Sox. Some folks in Seattle are getting exasperated with Bob Melvin's management of the bullpen - he has failed to define roles very well, and neither Sasaki nor Benitez seem suited to setup roles. Yet, Hasegawa has been untouchable as closer. And the bats are frail lately. But it is great to be in a pennant race this late (do they still call it a pennant race with all these teams making the playoffs?). :wtf:

Doesn't the similarity between Bosox and Botox bother you a bit? :D:D

[John Bridge]

Yeah, I've heard of those Botox guys. Don't they play out of Boston?

:)

[sdaniels7114]

They just had a telethon here in Beantown today, the Jimmy Fund. Kids and cancer, what a crappy mix :(

Anyhoo, in one day the team and its fans raised over 900 K:cool:

They've done this for years, as a matter of fact the team sold a little over a year ago for somewhere around 800 mil. Most went to the Jimmy fund, All would be well, 'cept George Steinbrenner, the hated owner of the Yanks, had to go and pledge 10 grand to the cause :eek: How do you hate him when he goes and pulls a dirty trick like that?;)

[fishinfarmgirl]

How do you hate him when he goes and pulls a dirty trick like that?

Well good for old George S.! That was a pretty nice gesture if you ask me!

Now about this weekend..... ;) M's have their work cut out for them for sure. I am hoping for a good show of the bats this time around! Fingers crossed! As to the bull pen...HOW many years we been gripin' about the friggin bullpen? The pitching is far superior to what it has been in the past at least! But man...to be honest...I hold my breath sometimes as I see a mess happening in the 8th inning. YIKES!

Lookin' forward to the weekend.

L

[fishinfarmgirl]

:( Oh BIG FAT BUMMER!

Garicia choked!

Camy almost pulled it off.

And the 10th inning proved fatal to the M's!

Boy...the celebrations were like a playoff game eh?

Guess there's always tomorrow!

Nuther nail biter! :(

L

[flatfloor]

Boston takes 2 in a row, Yanks lose 2 in a row. Lights stay on in Fenway. :)

[sdaniels7114]

So far this weekend, the Bosox have been Seatle's botox:shades: That's baseball, just like New England weather, don't like it, wait a day:D

[sdaniels7114]

Now, if only the Yankees would start loosing, it would be The good guys(Sox), Seattle, Oakland, and some crappy team from the central division in the playoffs. btw Todd, or anyone from MIN, why the heck did you guys give up David Ortiz? He's been a godsend here, 20 hr's, batting over .300, and perhaps most importantly, he's batting over .400 after a walk to 160 million dollar man, Manny Ramirez. Last season, Ramirez contended for the lead in walks, he'd get up with guys in scoring position, and off to first he'd go, we had nobody to protect him before. I'm wondering, Did Ortiz make fun of icefishing :confused: or something? why else would you guys just send this terrific player packing?

[fishinfarmgirl]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

L :(

[sdaniels7114]

Linda, I'd turn that frown upside down. Pedro is whining again. :bang: That might not stop the A's from winning the West, but it sure won't help us in the wild card chase.

[tileguytodd]

I cant believe the Twinkies still exist with the poor management and handling of the ball club and i mean at the owner level!!
They want a new stadium,they want the taxpayers to pay for it,they want all the profit including concessions.I hope the team ends up in the swamps of alabama!!
Go Yanks!!!!!:D

[fishinfarmgirl]

:shades:

Go YANKS??? :rolleyes:

It's CRAZY time for baseball me thinks!

L

[fishinfarmgirl]

So the BOSOX are making their move up the ladder it seems!

Time for the curse fo the Bambino to get busy doin' it's thing I think!

Mariners are just not getting it to happen for them! Makin' me a leetle cray as a matter of fact! The A's keep movin up...Boston....

Winning in the ninth last night saved their butts. But now where do they go???

Oh it's getting painful!

L

[fishinfarmgirl]

Yesterday's game helps out huh????? :D

Nice 5th inning for the Mariners eh??? Finally got those bats working! Phew! So now we're up by TWO!

Let's see if we can keep it there or better!

Breathing a sigh of relief~
L

[sdaniels7114]

I was at yesterday's debacle at Fenway. Everything was perfect, except for the starting pitching, the entire bullpen, and several guys I'd never heard of in the lineup :bang: Ok, I guess that just leaves the weather, but believe me, that was PERFECT :D

I can't believe that tickets for this weekend's series with the Yanks were harder to come by than tickets for Springsteen's upcoming concert. It'll be the first ever concert at the park. I guess brothers in law are good for somethin' after all. The Sox will rise like a Phoenix from these ashes, I still have faith. I am also practical, so I've already reserved my spot on the Tobin bridge, wouldn't want to get caught up in the crowd.:crap: :crap:

[flatfloor]

Maybe there is something to that "Curse of the Bambino" after all. ;)

[sdaniels7114]

no, no, no, no, no! The curse is a fallacy. They've had Babe Ruth's daughter on TV many, many times. She's certain her daddy would never be so uncouth as to put a curse on anybody!:cool:

Nobody's ever been rude enough to ask her about his supposed behavior at all the houses with the red lights out front though :rolleyes:

I think it might be all of these college kids coming into town this weekend. Drinking all the beer, and clogging up the roads. Since most of em are from Long Island, I guess we in Boston got Jim to thank :mad: :mad:

[flatfloor]

They are NOT all from L.I., they just pass thru here on the way to the ferry from Orient Pt to New London.

As to the curse itself nobody ever said it was placed by The Babe himself. The curse was placed by a disgruntled resident of East Boston known as Vincenzo Occhio Diabolico.

:D

[fishinfarmgirl]

tickets for Springsteen's upcoming concert.

FABULOUS concert! If you like Springstein...go! What a great entertainer!

L

[sdaniels7114]

Sorry Linda :bow: I REALLY would have prefered it if the !@#$% Yankees got knocked out last night instead of your guys.

Anyhoo, Last night was the first of several celebrations the Sox will be having :yipee: :yipee:

[fishinfarmgirl]

It's been so painful watching all this unfold. We had such great things going on and then just folded for some reason.

It really made me sad! Thanks for reminding me of how bummed I am! ;)

So then, if WE'RE out...let's see Boston KICK SOME BUTT!!! It's about time don't you think????? :D

L

[flatfloor]

They celebrated being the wild card? Mark of a loser.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I would love to see them win it all. :)

[fishinfarmgirl]

Boy...things got UGLY in the locker room for Edgar and the big boss last night. Whoo eeee! NOT a good thing!

The GM came in a started RAGGING on the team and Edgar jumped in his face! YIKES!

L

[flatfloor]

Ah, that's nothing. Steinbrenner and the Yankees do it all the time. ;)

[jjwq8]

why the fuss? pro soccer in UK and europe is pretty much a revolving door for players and managers.

[jjwq8]

oh yeah ....... and violence is the norm:D

[tomtuttle]

I'm just here (with Linda) to take my medicine for the repeated collapse of the Mariners. I'm trying to take solace in the six months of good, contending baseball we had. But that whole expectations/reality disconnect remains troubling.

Is there a true baseball fan that would NOT like to see the Sox and the Cubs in the series?

[sdaniels7114]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2003/10/21/charges_expected_against_yankees/

Be glad y'all unloaded him.

[Sonnie Layne]

Tom,

there's only one cure for your misfortunate illness....

and I think you know what that is..... :nod:

Thank the gods for barley.

[flatfloor]

Steve, its not like those guys beat up the groundskeeper with a bat. :D

[sdaniels7114]

I think the major reason this is being pursued is because they did it in front of two Boston Policemen. :rolleyes: One was a uniformed officer the other was a detective. I'm not sure if the detective wore anything to give away that he was a cop; but, both were working the game. Each stepped out onto the field between 1/2 innings and so forth. Even though the groundskeeper guy was beaten pretty badly, he had puncture wounds from the players' cleats on his back and legs, I think they're going to court because of a lack of respect for the cops present. The groundskeeper had been cheering for the Sox in THEIR bullpen, one might say he got what he asked for, especially if one is a Yankee fan. In the end, you can't show up a cop in front of thousands of people and expect it to just be forgotten.

[flatfloor]

Geez, cleat marks? That's a bit much.