Wood staining problems

[Debcg]

I'm having problems with bleedback while trying to refinish my oak cabinets. Does anyone have helpful ideas. I'm using Minwax and want to know if there is a more potent stain that I can leave on for less time and not get the bleed back problem, or does anyone know how to make it stop? I'm going crazy.

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[Debcg]

I'm having problems with bleedback while trying to refinish my oak cabinets. Does anyone have helpful ideas. I'm using Minwax and want to know if there is a more potent stain that I can leave on for less time and not get the bleed back problem, or does anyone know how to make it stop? I'm going crazy

[cx]

Welcome, debcg. Please give us a first name to use in a permanent signature line. :)

And please don't post the same question in more than one forum here. We get confused enough as it is, eh?

Are you sure you're in the right place? We're primarily a tile and stone forum, but we certainly do have a number of members who do a bit of woodwork. Indeed, I'm one of those and I gotta admit I've never heard the term "bleedback" used with staining. Maybe I'll learn something here, too. :)

[Debcg]

I found some info posted on 12-02-2006 and thought I could get some help

[MudMaker]

Deb,
For heavens sake don't go crazy on us... :)
I'm on the Minwax Forum and suggest that you try those guys.. I don't know what bleed back is either..
Minwax is a wipe on stain and has to be wiped off.. that is, ya can't let it dry before ya try to wipe - eh?

[MHI]

Bleedback happens with red oak. Its when the stain soaks into the pores of the wood, and then only the surface dries. Later, the undried stain bleeds out.:)

You can fix the problem by letting the stain dry 24 hours, then rubbing it with a gray scotchbrite pad before finishing.

Or:

Seal the wood before staining.

Use a gel stain that doesn't penetrate.

Spray on a pigmented finish (toner) like the cabinet companys do.

[cx]

Well, I've certainly seen what you describe, Matt, but never hear it called bleedback. Always just waited a day or so and wiped it down with some turpentine or such. Sometimes happen again, though.

I've found the very best way to prevent it is not to stain your red oak. I like it best the color it comes with from the factory, with just a clear sealer. All my personal red oak gets that finish. :)

Don't take offense, Deb, I just wanted to make sure you weren't lost. This particular forum, the Mud Box, is for talkin' about absolutely anything somebody wants to talk about, including wood stain problems.

'Course we got us some bowdarkskulls what'll try to turn it into a political issue, but don't let'em distract you. :D

[Crestone Tile]

'Course we got us some bowdarkskulls what'll try to turn it into a political issue, but don't let'em distract you.

:lol1:

[gueuzeman]

Bleeding heart- tree hugging- red oak just needs a liberal dose of sealer, or humor.

Deb, pay no attention to CX's baiting comments. :)

gueuze

[Tool Guy - Kg]

Here's the thread (http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43629&highlight=over-staining) Deb is referring to from awhile ago. :)

[bbcamp]

You can also flood the piece with mineral spirits to fill the pores before you stain.

But it's probably best to wipe the piece with a stain saturated rag. You can control the amount of stain applied without flooding the pores.

[dgunnels]

I think maybe Deb gave up on us but I learned a lot from this thread anyway!

BTW, one of my neighbors may show up around here sometime soon.

[cx]

BTW, one of my neighbors may show up around here sometime soon.So, we should be onna lookout for somebody actin' weird, or what? What are you tryin' to tell us here? :scratch:

[dgunnels]

Not unless you consider wanting to tile somthin' weird behavior. :lol1:

[Debcg]

Thanks everyone for your help. It seems there are a few issues going on, but primarily I need to wipe the stain off alot quicker.

[MudMaker]

Ah... So do I win?? :rolleyes:
Did I come the closest?? :D
It's time to celebrate, no wait.. I do that everynight.. :neesie:

[sandbagger]

several years ago I did some unfinished red oak furniture. Not knowing any better I actually did use a stain, but was apparently lucky enough to pick one that didn't have a problem. Or maybe it it did and I didn't notice. I used Watco stains. I think I did see a little "bleedback" but just followed directions and it wan't an issue. I do recall that instructions clearly said to use multiple coats to get deeper color rather than letting it sit on the wood too long.

I also didn't put any kind of topcoat over it - just the Watco lemon oil wax. That was over 20 years ago and the stuff still looks great. (yes, I oil it occasionally, but nearly as much as I should)

[Debcg]

Thanks for the info I appreciate it.