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Scooter
12-18-2007, 08:54 PM
Today marks the first installment of nuclear fuel delivered by Russia to Iran with the support of the Bush Administration. Said Bush in Virginia today, "If the Russians are willing to do that [deliver the plutonium]...which I support..."

One minute they're an Axis of Evil, the next we applaud Russian Plutonium deliveries to this rogue nation. I don't get it.

Iran goes Nuclear today with the support of the United States. If they build a bomb, you can remember that we allowed it to happen--on this day.

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MudMaker
12-19-2007, 09:14 AM
If they build a bomb, you can remember that we allowed it to happen--on this day.
Ya know they're building a bomb or many bombs....
I don't get it?? :confused:
I can't support Russia (Putin) and I can't support Iran..
Even if Putin is the "Man of the Year"

Scooter
01-29-2008, 03:43 PM
Nuclear Fuel delivered today, with the blessing of the USA.

http://voanews.com/english/2008-01-28-voa15.cfm

tilerite
01-29-2008, 03:45 PM
Maybe your girl Hillary will make it all better. Then again.........

ob1kanobee
01-29-2008, 06:07 PM
I agree with you but the truth is this:

There is nothing th U.S. can really do about it. We are already walking on thin ice with Russia. Behind closed doors Bush is mad as you know what, but what can he do about it. If he came out and lashed at everything he didn't approve of that some country does, the other nations would dislike us more than they already do. That is why we are not in politics and setting tile instead.

There is a saying that everyone has heard and it applies here "It is best to keep your friends close and your enemies even closer".

I don't care who is the president of the U.S. If Russia wants to sell to Iran they
are going to do it. In this particular case with Putin, to tell him we don't approve, would only encourage him more.

Westie
01-29-2008, 07:15 PM
And why should the US be allowed to have nuclear weapons but Iran can't have a reactor?

ob1kanobee
01-29-2008, 07:33 PM
Exactly Westie, you cannot have your cake and eat it too.........

sandbagger
01-29-2008, 10:25 PM
And why should the US be allowed to have nuclear weapons but Iran can't have a reactor?Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that an engineer would ask that question. :suspect:

tilerite
01-30-2008, 06:09 AM
Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that an engineer would ask that question.

I was tempted to respond but better I say nothing.

ob1kanobee
01-30-2008, 11:46 AM
Don't be under the impression that these third world countries or other countries that may not be as advanced as ours are over there tinkering away with building power plants.
My brother returned from Iraq a couple of years ago while working for General Electric who was rebuilding part of a plant over there. These power plants are built by well respected MEGA companies from all over the world for BIG money contracts.
They have the best engineers and security on these job sites. In Iraq the security for the power plant my brother was on was a private company using ex-military and military trained people to keep the plant safe.
My brother told me that one day there was someone approaching the plant in Iraq who did not respond to stop this is a restricted area, so they just opened fire on him before he even got near the plant (in case he was a suicide bomber).

Scooter
01-30-2008, 02:56 PM
There is nothing th U.S. can really do about it. We are already walking on thin ice with Russia. Behind closed doors Bush is mad as you know what, but what can he do about it. If he came out and lashed at everything he didn't approve of that some country does, the other nations would dislike us more than they already do. Oh, so calling Iran an "Axis of Evil" might not have been a good idea? And diplomacy might have been a better approach? I say pick one--either they are the Axis of Evil, in which case we better go to war with them, or they're not, and we should work on a diplomatic front. In either event, praising the delivery of nuclear fuel is inappropriate. There is nothing to celebrate here. Maybe a Bushie can enlighten me on what it is that is worthy of praise here, because I'm not seeing it.

Alto
02-01-2008, 05:55 AM
It's simple, really. If the Russians supply Iran with fuel grade plutonium then they have no excuse whatsoever to continue refining their own uranium into either fuel grade or weapons grade plutonium. If they continue refinement it will be clear that they are building nuclear weapons. If we can catch them at it, that is.

ob1kanobee
02-01-2008, 10:55 PM
I didn't here of any democrats raising a stink about it, mainly the ones running in the presidential race. It doesn't matter what kind of politician you are, they are ALL liars and crooks! They sure are not in it for the government pay (even though a half million ain't too shabby).
It's the power and all the other money that they want.

Scooter
02-02-2008, 04:37 PM
Well, Ben, I've seen only one person calling a press conference and announcing how great it is to have Russian U235 in the hands of Iran. Only one person in the whole USA said that, and in my judgment it was one of the stupidist things I've heard in quite a while.

IOU12
02-02-2008, 07:15 PM
"The only way to win World War III is to prevent it."

"But could not our situation be compared to one of a menacing epidemic? People are unable to view this situation in its true light, for their eyes are blinded by passion. General fear and anxiety create hatred and aggressiveness. The adaptation to warlike aims and activities has corrupted the mentality of man; as a result, intelligent, objective and humane thinking has hardly any effect and is even suspected and persecuted as unpatriotic."

"It is an unfortunate fact that we can secure peace only by preparing for war."

History has a bad habit. It tends to repeat itself.......

ceramictec
02-07-2008, 04:52 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/hs19ch.jpg

Wednesday, 6 February 2008, 12:29 GMT
Russia: Iran's space rocket test could be proof of nuclear weapons program
Russia suspicious over Iran test

Russia thinks the launch of an Iranian rocket into space raises suspicion over the true aim of its nuclear program, a foreign ministry official has said.

"Long-range missiles are one of the components of a [nuclear] weapons system," Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Losyukov told Interfax.

Therefore Monday's test launch of Iran's Explorer-1 space rocket was "of course, a cause for concern", he said.

Iran insists its nuclear program is purely for peaceful energy production.

Correspondents say the statement by Mr Losyukov appeared to indicate that Moscow increasingly shares Western concerns about Tehran's nuclear course.

"It increases suspicion of Iran regarding its possible desire to create a nuclear weapon," he was quoted as saying.

Iran said the rocket which was test-fired would be used to launch research satellites.

The US State Department said the launch was "troubling", as it was an example of the same technology behind long-range ballistic missiles.

In the past, Russia has been more skeptical than some Western powers about Iran's missile capability, saying it would take a long time to build long-range missiles.

Scooter
02-07-2008, 05:57 PM
We need Star Wars. Now.

sandbagger
02-07-2008, 10:25 PM
We need Star Wars. Now. Glad to hear you'll be voting GOP this fall, Scooter. :clap2:

Even today the Dems in Congress are doing things to undermine the continued development and deployment of a working Missile Defense. And the system does work - it could easily take down anything these people could come up with. :nod:

Scooter
02-08-2008, 10:20 AM
Personally, I like the idea of Bill Clinton in the White House for 4 years with nothing to do. Well, he could interview interns..........

kate42
02-08-2008, 05:23 PM
I like the idea of Bill Clinton in the White House for 4 years with nothing to do. Well, he could interview interns.

And? :D

Scooter
03-05-2008, 12:21 PM
Maybe Russia can do something to help this issue:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/05/world/main3907497.shtml