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Cruise Director
12-04-2002, 01:59 AM
I frequent quite a few different forums. One of them happens to have quite a few people that work retail. I posted this a while back and got quite a response. It's a "tongue-in-cheek" guide to retail. I hope you enjoy it:

A=A$@hole. Don't be one. I don't come to your job and turn in to a butt pucker, so why should you do that to me?

B=Baskets. Why must you always ask where the baskets are? Don't most places generally keep a large supply somewhere near the entrance? I'm not hiding them behind the building. Honest.

C=Children. Control yours. Contrary to popular belief, I am not your babysitter. Nothing excites me more than getting to watch your kids while you shop.

D=Discount. No. You may not have one. Where is it that you shop that gives you a discount just for asking? Those 20 2x4's don't qualify as a "major" purchase, either. This is not a swap meet. I am not a car salesman. The sticker price is the price.

E=Ethics. Have some. Don’t rip open bags for a discount. Don’t drop a mirror in my parking lot and come back in for me to replace it.

F=Fun. This job could be. In fact, we could make it fun for you to shop here, too, if you help control the above mentioned "A's."

G=Gratuity. A “thank you” goes a long way towards me wanting to help you next time you are in my store. Last time I checked, my helping you was a service that granted, I get paid to do, but is still something you couldn’t do alone and a good, warm “thanks” will make my day

H=Human. I am. All my employees are. We cannot control shipping lines, vendor backorders, or the alignment of the planets. If your product is stuck someplace and hasn’t arrived yet, being an “A” will not help the situation. I cannot go find the big, slow boat from China to get your lampshade here any quicker.

I=Interested. As in, “I’m not really interested in how you want to build birdhouses out of wax toilet rings and roofing tar.” Please tell me what it is you need so I can assist you and move on to the next customer needing assistance.

J=Job. This is mine. You have yours. Treat me like I was at your job and you were assisting me.

K=Kittens. Animals are great and I enjoy letting you bring them in to my store and shop. They seem to make customers and employees alike generally happy. Please be prepared to clean the poop when they make a mess.

L=Lie. Don’t lie to me. “I spend thousands of dollars in this place!” Do you think that I wouldn’t know you if you were really spending a lot of money in my place? I take great pride in knowing my good customers by name and, YOU!, by dropping the spending card have just made my “A” list. (Please see A above.)

M=Maintainence. Sometimes we have to do some. Saws and paint shakers break down sometimes. So does the key-making machine and an occasional forklift. It costs me money to have this stuff not in operation so believe me when I tell you I am not intentionally breaking things to anger you. I will get it fixed as soon as humanly possible. Please deal with it.

N=Notice. Please “notice” that you are not the only one here. Everybody needs help and we will get to you as soon as possible. Interrupting me while I’m assisting someone else will not get your problem solved any faster. In fact… it will probably slow me down.

O=Open. We are open 16 out of 24 hours per day. Please don’t be angry when you show up a half hour after we close and yell stuff at me like “Why don’t you stay open an hour later?!?!” Here’s an idea: Why don’t YOU get up an hour earlier?

P=Patience. Try some out. The whole world is not coming to a standstill because you have something that needs to be done. Contrary to popular belief, you are not the only person in the place at the present moment.

Q=Questions. Ask away. We love you to stroke our egos and by asking questions you are doing just that. Please make them somewhat intelligent. Do not come in to my hardware store and ask where the bakery is. Also, see letter “D.”

R=Retail. That’s what this is. You are not a contractor so please don’t try and act like one to get a discount. (By the way, it was a dead giveaway when you asked the wrong “Q’s”)

S=Saturdays and Sundays. They are busy. In fact, you people that work Monday thru Friday seem to pick these two days to do all of your shopping. Please don’t get upset when you are waiting in a line and ALL of my registers are going. I can’t break out the cigar box and calculator and take your money. See “O” for ways around this little problem.

T=Tax. You must pay it. I don’t care what religion you are, what farm you grow stuff on or what government organization you think you represent. If you don’t have your tax I.D. number, you will pay tax.

U=Ugly. The paint and wallpaper you picked out is exactly that. Please don’t ask my opinion or I am likely to give it to you.

V=Vulgar. I am trying to help you. I curse like a sailor in my off time but at work, the second you get “vulgar” with me is when I go in to defense mode. Chances are you will be asked to leave or hung up on. They don’t pay me enough to take the same abuse as your spouse and your kids, pal.

W=Willing. I am willing to help you if you are willing to be a good customer. We can also make this a “win-win” situation in the aspect that you are nice to me and I do everything possible to accommodate your needs.

X=X-ray. I can not see in to your brain. If you send someone in with a list, please give me some good explanation as to what you want. Pictures don’t really help when you draw it with a nail in to a piece of drywall, either.

Y=Yesterday. “They did it that way yesterday.” Well, sir, policies change. Just because we gave cash to crack heads for stolen merchandise without a receipt yesterday does not mean we are doing it today.

Z=Zoo. Some days I feel like I work in one.


Please use the above guide while shopping in my store. It will make a better shopping experience for the both of us. Use this guide and I won’t come to your job and make a scene, either. I think it should be a law that everyone work a retail job for one year of their life. It would make for a kinder, gentler society.

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Sonnie Layne
12-04-2002, 02:45 PM
well now... seems we share much the same opine of the retail public.

Makes you feel like a proctologist in a circus sometimes huh?

All you see are rear-ends and clowns.

tomtuttle
12-04-2002, 03:20 PM
Wow. That's some list, Cruise. I want to again thank you for participating here and helping me understand part of your world.

I'm not going to pick point-by-point, but the overall tenor of the list leaves me quite cold. If all retail employees are as jaded and cynical as your post indicates, it is no wonder that people are so eager to shop on the internet. I'd rather have no direct personal interaction than be subjected to "service" by somebody whose predisposition is that I'm just another A$hole customer.

And I think "predisposition" is an important element, here. My default is to treat all people with dignity and respect, and with the understanding that just about everybody knows more than I do about something. If HD employees (or those from other retail establishments) expect stupid, rude people, then their approach to customers will produce a self-fulfilling prophesy.

It helps me to understand that the attitudes I see from some employees may be a cumulative effect from having dealt with persons who are not appropriately gracious or patient. But last time I checked, the business of retail was to sell products to the general public, regardless of how stupid the general public may be. It may be helpful to gauge your expectations or strategies at a different level. Likewise, I am reminded that HD sells to an incredibly wide spectrum of people, from skilled contractors to little old ladies.

I'm reminded of "we have enough youth; how about a fountain of smart?" ;)

But what really strikes me is this list in the context of HD. Having basically wiped out the competition, such a cavalier attitude toward service is not easily punished by taking one's business elsewhere.

I guess what I'm looking for is a place where my patronage and my purchases are appreciated. I didn't get that sensation from this ABC list.

Cruise Director
12-05-2002, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Cruise Director
It's a "tongue-in-cheek" guide to retail.



Tom, it's strictly meant for the 1/2 of 1% of the customers that drive a person crazy. The people that walk up to you in your huge orange apron and ask "Do you work here?"

It's not how I view every customer. I love 99.5% of them dearly. There's no way I could still be doing this for this long if I didn't.

I'm sure you could compile a similar list in your place of employment.

Sonnie Layne
12-05-2002, 01:20 AM
Hey Tom (and cruise),

there really is such a person as the racetrack dude. Now it's true that he can't tell you what you're looking for, but if you know what you're looking for and the store stocks the item, he'll/she'll either know where it's stocked or they'll be able to find out if they stock it or not. Now that's about as good as I could expect from my local independently owned store..

Second to that, if it turns out they can get it, they'll deliver it for nominal charge. Beyond that, if it turns out they stock it but couldn't find it, they'll deliver it for free. At least that's been my experience.

If your local HD or Lowes has a contractors desk, I'd jump into their jeans before consulting an aisle clerk. Some of these guys really know either they know something or they know enough to tell you you're asking the wrong question at the wrong store, expecting a discount price because you don't know the answer to ask a full service supply center. It sounds tacky, and I don't mean to come across as a being adverserial to the common shopper at the big box... it's just hard for them to know everything.... unlike me. ;) I was born knowing everything :D

Now, do you want the cajun spice or not??? Speak up, man!!! ;) I'll offer the cruise director the same custom spice if He/she will just give us a name to direct to. Hell man, make one up, we don't want your passport number, just a real name! I'll send you some cajun spices, but of course I would have to have an address for that.

I'm harmless, I promise. :)

So is this site as far as I know... we try to keep it that way.

Oh,, and I've thought how nice it was for someone from HD's management to engage themselves on this forum. It's been an ongoing conversation around here and it's really nice to hear from the "other side". I've been around corporate retail/wholesale structures in my life, so I understand both sides of the questions.

Would it maybe be possible for some supervisory staff from Home Depot to join in on this discussion and maybe answer some questions? Not to demean your position (I wish you managed a store in my location), but this is not a menial website any longer, there are pro's from all facets of remodeling/building that frequent this site and it might not be a bad idea if someone from HD popped in once in a while.

I don't mean that to sound like your position isn't important, but believe me... there are enough people in position around here that would welcome a spokesperson from your company to spend a bit of time... we might even give you a break on the rates :).

thanks again for coming in once in a while as you have time. There are important questions posted here that you seem to have intelligent answers to. That alone is worth the price we typically charge for membership to this site.

That, of course, was a joke, and thus the smiley :D

Yours most confusingly truly,
Sonnie Layne

Cruise Director
12-05-2002, 02:40 AM
I knew you'd like the racetrack manager, It's a position that is long overdue in the big box scene.

As for a spokesperson from HD popping in, I'll be as close as you can get. I'm second in command at my store and Home Depot is pretty tight-lipped from the corporate end of the business. I'm supposed to be, too and I try to watch what kind of information I give out. I will do my best to give honest answers and insight from the other side of the fence. I do have quite a bit of knowledge of the retail hardware game. I started 16 years ago doing this and have done pretty well for only being 32. I love talking to folks like those here because they can teach me new things about the other side of my business. I've been around a long time in this game but realize I'm still young and have a lot of learnin' to do.

Sonnie Layne
12-05-2002, 11:42 AM
Ahh well, we won't hold that against you.

Funny just how stuck-up corporate structure can be, huh?


Anyway, you just stick on around here. At least you have a good reason for anonymity (sp??), but can't you make up a name we can use??? :D

I'll be on the horn to HD in Atlanta, we could use some funding on our next corporate affair where industry issues will be high on the list. Right under the fried shrimp diablo. ;) Hey, anyone can turn down a great sales pitch, it's much harder to turn down good food...

tomtuttle
12-05-2002, 01:24 PM
Sorry, I'm humor-deficient some days. I guess it's just hard for me to totally accept how dreadfully some customers treat you folks. :monster: :stick:

My workplace is actually pretty civilized. But I have observed that, given a large enough population sample, a certain percentage of any group is bound to be, um, on the A-List. :D:D

flatfloor
12-05-2002, 02:23 PM
Boy Cruise, can I understand that. In a previous life I ran a contractors supply house they were constantly complaining 7:00 AM was to late to open so we changed to 6. Guess what? At 5:30 they were in the diner across the street trying to get us to open. :)

Sonnie

We are fortunate to get Cruise here. Most if not all Corps frown on employess being active on the web. I'm sure this is why Cruise is being so careful about guarding his identity.

The only reaon I'm here is I owned the company.

Sonnie Layne
12-05-2002, 02:44 PM
Alright, alright...

we'll just call him cruiser then... just don't make me call him Tom, OK??? :D:D

I have a personal dislike for that short little shit. Last time we were out on the town (uptown, that is) trying to pull my Billy Bob Thornton routine, who walks in to steal the friggin' show??? Li'l Tommy Cruiser. I just hate losing the spotlight. He don't even know how to hold a paintbrush, much less get his make-up on straight! ;) He does have nice hair, tho'...

tomtuttle
12-05-2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Sonnie Layne
... just don't make me call him Tom, OK??? :D:D

I have a personal dislike for that short little shit.

Just for the record, I'm a touch over six-feet, and nobody's called me a little shit since my momma about 30 years ago. :D:D:D

I know, you're talking about Nicole Kidman's ex-husband. Speaking of bad choices, how could a man allow himself to misbehave so badly as to mess up THAT relationship? Shoot, she's better looking than .... Reese Witherspoon.

Sonnie Layne
12-05-2002, 03:52 PM
Hey, maybe that's Tom in drag!!! (cruise, that is) :D

tileguytodd
12-05-2002, 04:57 PM
:cool: <-raises his hand and says"i'll take some spice sonnie " :D

As for cruise's A list,Having worked in retail many years ago,I can appreciate the list with a grin and a chuckle.The percentage he/she quotes is a good estimation also.I did however find a sure fire way to calm down even the most unruly custumer.

Let them rant for a moment or two and then when they take a breath say SIR/MAAM, Are you Mad at me Personally??(then shut up)
This will generally elicit a stutter/stammer /well no not you personally type statement. Follow this up with.

Would you mind terribly if i try to solve your problem for you??

Most of the time they go from mad as hell to thinking your the best thing since buttered bread to actually take the time to try to help them. It works,i am not kidding. try it next chance you get :)