BTK killer

[LadyGodiva]

Said he humbled himself...makes me want to cry. Where do these loonies come from? I love the way they keep talking about God, and showing how similar he was to some of his victims. I just want to puke reading about this man :sick: This man was a boy scouts leader!




"A dark side is there, but now I think light is beginning to shine," Rader said, his voice choking at times. "Hopefully someday God will accept me."

Rader also went through the list of his 10 victims one by one, drawing comparisons between him and them. He talked about victims who liked dogs when they were kids — just like him. He talked about how one of his child victims reminded him of his kids. He talked about how one victim went to his high school, albeit at a different time.

"I know the victim's families will never be able to forgive me. I hope somewhere deep down, eventually that will happen," he said.

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[sdaniels7114]

I was impressed with how the victim's families all politely walked out the door when it was BTK's turn to speak. That says so much more to me than an emotional outburst.

[opiethetileman]

I got one solution for that peice of work and that would be one 50 cal bullet. And let the judge say next case please.

[GraniteGirl]

In my opinion, the only reason he cried was becasue they had caught him. He is not capable of remorse. He was comparing the case against him to a powerpoint presentation and actually gave a critique. He must be the most callous and cold hearted bastard alive.

[LadyGodiva]

Walking out was a good move. What a sick bastard!

It's hard to imagine that he was once someone's bundle of joy, isn't it?

[dufus]

It's hard to firmly establish one's feelings in situations like this. On the one hand, a single bullet seems too quick and easy, but yet, the guy is sick beyond any question. Still, no matter how much remorse (feined or real) there is, we all must have consequences for our actions. A civilized society must ensure there are consequences - even for the truly remorseful.

This is not the only bizarreness in our world today. I fear the more we broadcast the details of someone's sick behavior, the more society tends to become desensitized to the insanity. Yet, some good (proactive protective measures) can come from knowing what has happened (and can happen.)

While I am a deeply religious person (who tries not to push my sentiments onto others), I am also a realist and that part of me says get past it. Take steps to prevent it from happening and protect society from increased decay, but also pursue and foster what is good in life.

And not to be too suck-up-ish, you guys on this forum have helped me find and create beauty in my home that I didn't know I was capable of. The contrast between that and the other things that go on in society makes me want to focus on, and promote, the good. It's the way I make sense of it all.

Sorry for the soapbox sermon.

[LadyGodiva]

Lance, that's the best thing I've read all day. Thank you :)

[BRUCEGIBSON]

Sad all the way around-not death penalty eligible. Not that it makes any difference. The only folks actually doing any executions anymore are Texas, and they're not breaking any records. Maybe he'll wind up accidentally loose in the general population and the other inmates will do a sequel to the Jeffrey Dahmer "bathroom termination" short story. Or make him the guest of honor at the Department of Corrections Sadie Hawkins Dance. Give him a preview of what hell's gonna be like so it won't be a complete surprise when he gets there. We can only hope.

[John Bridge]

Welcome aboard, Bruce. :)

Texas has slowed down on two accounts: DNA evidence has actaully proved that at least a couple of condemned men are inocent; and there is an ongoing problem with the Houston Crime Lab. Seems most of the managers were not qualified for the job, and a number of technicians were not technically qualified. There has been gross mismanagement in the unit going back several years.

Other than that, Texas is still operating under the laws of the State of Texas and executing condemned criminals unless there is a stay.

The other thing we are doing is trying to pass "life with no chance of parole." We've never had that option. It's either been death or life with parole.

[BRUCEGIBSON]

Thanks, John. Tickled to be here-I've been lurking in the background for hours on end soaking it all in. I've become "tile-obsessed" and practicing your techniques. :bow: By the way, great books--got 'em both via Amazon.com. I've pretty much mastered "crawling around," but need some work on "standing around."

As to this thread, we suffer the same ills here in good ol' Florida. In between hurricanes, lightning strikes, tornados and shark attacks, DNA has made great things possible on both sides of the fence. Both catchin' the bad guys and freeing the wrongfully convicted. Regrettably, budget constraints and lost evidence keep a lot of folks from taking advantage of that route. Not to mention the embarrasment to the various States when DNA proves the jury trial/beyond a reasonable doubt approach to justice is, in many ways, a deal of the cards or roll of the dice. We generally consider a jury trial as a spin of the roulette wheel.

But I ramble. As to this Rader guy, he's confessed. Shown little if any remorse. Let's get a rope and find a tree.

I tend to agree with those that claim the death penalty doesn't deter crime. I also strongly believe that the death penalty has a pretty dramatic effect on repeat offenders.

[LadyGodiva]

I sure hope some of those guys in prison are ready for this little sweetie. Especially the really BIG guys :yipee:

[BRUCEGIBSON]

:dance: Hope he packed his dancin' shoes.