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PizzaPrincess
07-22-2005, 03:04 PM
We are having TS and travertine installed next week. Do we seal it after he installs? What do we use? When do we do it? THe floor seems to be polished and there are no holes in it. THe backsplash is the TS and has the natural holes etc. in it.
Any advice would be helpful. Someone mentioned grout haze etc.? I am just really lost.

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Davestone
07-22-2005, 08:14 PM
You're not lost,you're here!We need a first name fer ya.And now,we don't usually seal polished stones, unless it has fissures..little cracks...or for some reason soaks up water.The tumbled should have the holes filled with grout,and wiped clean a couple times after grouting.If there is a residue, you can use the stone cleaner from here. Then after a couple days...depending on the time the sealer bottle says...you can grout wih an enhancing,or impregnating sealer,depending on the look and color you want.Go to the TYW store above and pick out a cleaner and sealer if you want. :)

PizzaPrincess
07-22-2005, 09:17 PM
Hi. I am so sorry. How rude I never introduced myself! I am Summer, from Ohio. I am in such a tizzy over all this I lost my manners along the way. I just had granite installed in all of my bathrooms and my home office as well as my kitchen and travertine is coming for these rooms next week along with a tumbled stone backsplash. I have requested that he keeps the grout out of the natural holes etc. of the backsplash. SO I should probably seal it? Do the stone enhancers darken things up? Make them shiny? What will my steps be after he leaves?

Thanks!!!!

Davestone
07-22-2005, 10:03 PM
If you take a piece of the tumbled and run water on it,that will be about the color of the stone if you enhance it.Or you can just use impregnating sealer, which will be invisible.Now since you have left the holes open, you have to realize that dirt and mildew will eventually fill them, and the sealer won't totally seal the stone. Now,if it's just a splash with limited use,probably no big deal,but i like to fill the holes.Now,some people seal before grouting, but the act of grouting tends to dull an enhancing sealer,so i usually wait till after grout.Then i clean the stone,let dry a couple days,till you've got at least 3 days for grout to cure, but preferrably around seven days,then if there's no haze, i like to use a sponge, and hold it over the bottle, shake sealer into sponge, but no dripping,then wipe it on the stone,,you need to wipe over spills, drips and puddles with a clean dry rag. For enhancers i use two coats the same day,for impregnators i keep wiping till it doesn't suck any more up. :)

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 07:55 AM
Ok Dave...TY! I am printing this all off and going to study up! THe part I am not grouting in is my backsplash. My travertine floors are polished or something. No holes. I do not know all the terms yet. ;)

Thanks!
Summie

doitright
07-23-2005, 09:30 AM
Hi Summer, Welcome! :)

Dave's got you on track! :nod:

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 04:27 PM
What are the pro and cons of an impregnator and an enhancer...is the enhancer a two in one product?

Thanks!

Summer

doitright
07-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Hi Summer :)

Yes, the enhancer is a two in one product.

They both have pros & cons.

Pros -

After sealing, maintenance will be easier, and the surface will be less prone to staining.

Cons -

After enhancing, you can't go back.

After sealing, you'd have to strip the sealer to enhance.

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 08:48 PM
Excellent...I soaked my tile in water adn I actually really like the color that way. Although my listello is resin I think so it did not change.

Here they are before.

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/105133735.jpg


I did not take an after, but the listello looks a bit darker anyhow, so for the tiles to richen up is not a big ordeal and I think it will look nice.

Will I need to change grout color or will that be enhanced as well?

Thanks for all your helpful advice ;)
Summer

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 08:50 PM
Oh and is the enhancer more like a top coat of nail polish? Where it is easier to wipe clean where the impregnator is like just an oil or substance that sinks in and leaves no glossy shine? Or does the enhancer not leave a glossy shine?


Can we just talk this all through in nail polish termonology? ;)

Kidding.
Summie

Davestone
07-23-2005, 08:59 PM
Nope, not nail polish...but it plays one on t.v....it will give the appearance of a coating, though...also, it looks to me like an enhancer will bring your stone in perfectly to the color of your listello,which you are correct,is a composite...also the grout will darken slightly.. :)

doitright
07-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Hi Summer :)

Most enhancers will only darken the grout slightly. Keep that in mind when selecting your grout colors. Also, various products produce different results. TEST first! :nod:

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 10:15 PM
So I need to buy grout and grout something then seal it before I decide? Culd I enhance the sample card???


I am such a novice. :(

doitright
07-23-2005, 10:21 PM
Hi Summer :)

No, make it easier than that. Decide on a couple of grouts you like with your tile, both wet and dry. Either way, they'll compliment the stone.

Decide where you want to purchase your enhancer from. Stone Tech has samples available. If you get a sample, or the real product, treat a piece of stone with the enhancer and let it dry. Look at it with the grout colors you selected previously. See if the results meet your expectations.

PizzaPrincess
07-23-2005, 11:28 PM
Excellent. I will get right on this. :) Thanks so much! I am sure I will have many more questions though. ;)

PizzaPrincess
07-25-2005, 10:35 PM
Ok you pros...what is the best thing to clean my travertine floors with? Can I use my Hoover Floormate with their cleaner?

Also do I do Aquaseal on the floor or just a regular sealer. It has a smooth and filled look and feel to it.


Thanks!!!

Summie

PizzaPrincess
07-30-2005, 08:12 AM
Ok. SO I need to enhance and seal in one AFTER grouting (backsplash) and the floors....do I do the same? What product from here is basically the same as the aqua mix enhance and seal? I have 700 square feet of travertine in one area and then a backsplash in a kitchen and bath in tumbled stone then two bathroom floors in travertine(maybe 200 or so sq feet between the two). Will this be a durable finish for a floor? I went against advice to use look a like travertine for the real thing just because I am probably a bit nuts to want to seal about 900 square feet pretty often. Or so I am told.

doitright
07-31-2005, 10:04 AM
Hi Summer :)

Do some TEST sampleing of the various enhancers. The different manufacturers can produce drastically different results. AquaMixes Enrich n Seal produces the darkest results, while Stone Techs Enhancer Pro produces a very natural looking darkening of the stone. All stones react differently to the various enhancers. This is why TESTing is so important. Stone Tech & other companies offer free samples to TEST with.

These are not topical coatings, therefore don't wear off the surface. Depending on maintenance, the impregnating sealers can last several years.

Depending on the traffic of your home, your travertine may need to be rehoned by a professional ocassionally over the years.

PizzaPrincess
08-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Do you have a preference between Stone Tech Enhancer and Enhancer pro? Will the Pro hold up better to kitchen conditions and high traffic, or is it basically an exterior product? Can I reseal with regular stuff over this on down the line so I do not have to fork out for the enhancer again? Did I ask that already? :uhh:

doitright
08-03-2005, 06:35 AM
Hi Summie :)

If you like get some samples. Stone Tech Enhancer Pro is the enhancer. It is suitable for interior and exterior. It can be occassionally maintained with Stone Tech Revitalizer (cleaning agents combined with small amount of sealer).

For everyday maintenance, Stone Tech's All Purpose Tile & Stone Cleaner can be used.

PizzaPrincess
08-03-2005, 02:45 PM
Ok, I have decided upon Stone Tech Pro ...tile setter suggested enhancing and sealing before I grout then applying another color so that the grout comes off easily? Is this good advice?

doitright
08-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Hi Summie :)

The enhancer is also the sealer. You can apply a coat before grouting. Try to stay with the same product from beginning to end.

PizzaPrincess
08-03-2005, 07:57 PM
So applying a coat after will take care of any the issue you mentioned earlier with dulling?

I am SO sorry to keep bothering you. I just want to make sure I do it right. :uhh:

PizzaPrincess
08-03-2005, 07:58 PM
When I said color I meant coat...he said he thinks a coat before and a coat after.


THe 800 line from Stone Tech called me back and said to use the pre grout thing instead. ???? :tongue:

PizzaPrincess
08-03-2005, 08:43 PM
I am doing it now.....so far so good. Do I do the resin Listello?

PizzaPrincess
08-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Pics so far....

Before....
http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107009642.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/106412642.jpg


After.....
excuse the wall paper....that is going soon....hopefully....

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107009635.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107009628.jpg



Half of me liked it better before. Half of me says it matches the granite better now....It's so hard to tell from one little piece you test.


ETA:
It's lightened a bit as it dries. I like it better now. :)

doitright
08-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Hi Summie :)

They (ST) want you to use their grout release. I haven't tried the new technology stuff, but I used to hate to use grout release. What you're doing will work fine. The Enhancer Pro lightens considerably after it dries. That's why we always suggest to do a TEST 1st. :nod:

Dulling and film should not be an issue now. If so, it's because of a poor grout cleanup.

As far as the listello, do a TEST. It may not change much. Try to have them taped off during grouting. Otherwise most guys tend to leave excess grout in all the grooves. Just a suggestion. ;)

PizzaPrincess
08-04-2005, 02:15 PM
Thanks!!!!! Hugs!!!! It is all done and BEAUTIFUL!!!! I love it SO much! I will post pictures tonight!!!!
Don;t go anywhere though. I have 1100 square feet of travertine floor to seal ;)

PizzaPrincess
08-05-2005, 07:38 AM
Ok. Here are some completed pictures. :) We are going to be taking that wallpaper down here shortly and painting the walls a light mocha color with a cream ceiling and I am getting some nice Oil rubbed bromze cabinet hardware and fresh new wool rugs....so it is noct quite complete......;)

While grout is drying(I was a bit worried the grout was too dark ;))
http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107139663.jpg

dry grout


http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107139639.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107139637.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107139675.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107139681.jpg


:yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee: :yipee:

doitright
08-05-2005, 07:54 AM
Hi Summie :)

Now there is one happy camper! :D

After the grout cures, don't forget to seal that also.

PizzaPrincess
08-05-2005, 08:48 AM
I'm just going to do a second coat of the enchancer sealer.

doitright
08-05-2005, 07:23 PM
That'll work. Make sure you brush it in or spray it on. Misting it on works very good. Don't let any dry on the surface. You may want to protect your countertops during the process. :nod:

PizzaPrincess
08-09-2005, 08:19 AM
Hi John....I sealed a travertine floor with unsanded marble beige grout in a bathroom yesterday at about 6pm. I applied it evenly with a brush, but I see the grout has a lot of shade variance. It almost looks wet in areas and not in others. I was careful to wipe it all down and get it from the grout as well. ANy suggestions on what to do?

doitright
08-09-2005, 08:19 PM
Hi Summer :)

How does it look now that it is dried? :shades:

PizzaPrincess
08-10-2005, 07:06 AM
Hi Summer :)

How does it look now that it is dried? :shades:


Still the same. I even went back over the light areas with more enhancer. It looks awful. :cry:

doitright
08-10-2005, 07:25 AM
Hi Summer :)

In the shaded areas, can you see if there appears to be a "skin" over some areas of the grout? Sometimes this is caused by uneven cleaning, or the grout started to set up before it was removed.

Can you post a picture?

PizzaPrincess
08-10-2005, 08:03 AM
I see no skin of any kind. Here are some pics.

Could it be regrouted? Meaning could it hold more grout? Or will it need to be all taken out then regrouted? I thought putting some more enhancer on the lighter areas would help. It didn't.

:cry:

Grout pictures

one with flash, one without

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107851374.jpg

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL376/1373487/7329459/107851376.jpg

doitright
08-10-2005, 05:36 PM
Hi Summer :)

This is truely a sad situation.

Have you by chance tried ST Technical Assistance?

Yes, the grout would otherwise have to be taken to at least halfway in the joint. How about trying to scratch the grout in the light and dark areas, and see what it looks like.

PizzaPrincess
08-11-2005, 07:36 AM
I emailed them and this is the response I got....

"What are you using to apply the Enhancer Pro? Are you trying to only apply the sealer in the grout joints? Because the grout has different absorbancy this is a result of what can happen. There is not real way to fix the problem other than trying to add more coats. Who mixed the grout? Did the tile installer or you mix and lay the grout? Call me tomorrow so we can discuss."



Although an experienced tile setter did the work. (over 20 years) I just did the enhancing with a brush, followed the directions exactly. :(

doitright
08-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Hi Summer :)

Give Jennifer (ST Technical) a call tomorrow, and get one on one with her. I understand where she is coming from as to the different grout absorbancy rates. There necessarily isn't anyone or anything at fault here. It would be nice if there was an easier fix. Hopefully reapplication (as you've already done) will help, though I doubt it.

Don't give up or get discouraged, as we'll do all we can to find a resolution. ;)

BTW, did you try to scratch the light and dark grout yet? :shades:

PizzaPrincess
08-14-2005, 12:07 PM
Reapplications has not helped. I tried calling her. We are off three hours here, so when I can call, or have the time to call rather with having children she is not in etc. Something needs to be done. It is not acceptable looking and even more noticable IRL. I just do not know WHAT to do. Ugh!


Second issue is that I have a HUGE kitchen area to do. I do not want to risk it doing that there as well. I will be ver unhappy with the amount of money I spent on that travertine. Could I use the enhancer pro before then do a second coat of the bulletproof sealer over that and the grout with no issues?
Thing is if I do an area that is not noticable, it will need to be a small area and then sometimes it is a foot or two away that it looks wonky. I thought about returning the enhancer pro(second unopened gallon), but the place I purchased it does not do returns.

doitright
08-14-2005, 02:47 PM
Hi Summer :)

Thanks for your patience, and I couldn't agree more. Yes, your alternative is a possibility. I'll see if I can talk to Stone Tech for you. I'm very busy during the day, so give me until Tuesday, just in case. :)

PizzaPrincess
08-14-2005, 06:22 PM
Thanks :) I appreciate all of your help. I hope that what I suggested for the kitchen, sunroon, landry dining room and the master bathroom will work. Tha tis an awful lot of travertine for it to look icky. Like three pallets full! Yikes! Let me know and if you think the bullet proof stuff will work and not wonk the grout out. That way I will have two layers of coverage and non wonky grout. I need to order some cleaning concentrate from here anyhow so I will just wait to get that until I get word on what to use to seal it all with. I am assuming sealing the grout with grout sealer after enhancing is not good with all travertine?

PizzaPrincess
08-16-2005, 07:18 AM
I've been in touch via telephone with her. We are "working" on the issue. :bang:

doitright
08-16-2005, 07:05 PM
Hi Summer :)

Keep us up to date. I'm glad you were able to make contact. :nod:

Have you tried scratching the areas yet? :shades:

PizzaPrincess
08-16-2005, 09:41 PM
I scratched and no results. She is looking into it. We'll see what happens. I am trying to be patient. This experience will determine if I will be a lifer on the cleaning products.

doitright
08-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Hi Summer :)

To benefit all that have been following this thread.

Not to dish Stone Tech, but I sincerely think this is a grout issue, not a defective enhancer. Most current grouts are modified with some type of acrylic latex. While this is a good thing, when it comes to enhancers interacting, it's possible that some areas of the grout are more resistant to permeability than others. Pre modified grout days, this wouldn't have been an issue.

Couple that with not being able to acid wash grouts as prep prior to enhancing and/or sealing of marble & limestone products, to "etch" the surface (of the grout).

Now to compound matters further, with the newer flourochemical sealers and enhancers available, there is nothing short of an acidic product known to break them down. Again harmful to marble and limestone.

With more and more people requesting the "wet look" (enhanced) for their natural stone, and the ultimate protection of the flourochemical enhancers,
I think the grout issues that you are experiencing need to be further investigated.

One of the possible solutions, is as you earlier mentioned, would be to enhance the stone prior to grouting, and seal the grout afterward with a "natural" sealer.

By the way, did you do a TEST area first? :shades:

ripleys_mom
08-17-2005, 02:13 PM
I've been reading the posts by Summer and am starting to worry about sealing my travertine floors. John Bridge is going to install about 700 sqft of travertine in my entry, dining, kitchen, panty, laundry and 0.5 bath starting next week. :yipee: The travertine is honed and filled and will be a versaille pattern.
Until I read Summer's posts I was pretty sure I could do the sealing myself, but now I'm wondering if I should get a professional to do this. Any thoughts?
John if you're reading feel free to jump in here. You know me pretty well. :crazy:

PizzaPrincess
08-17-2005, 02:56 PM
I am going to enhance and seal my kitchen before grout and then use impreg. pro on the grout and tile after. Jennifer at ST did not recommend it(enhancing before grout), but you did for my backsplash and it was fine. I am sure it still will be. She suggested to use some sort of product over the stone to protect it from the grout or whatever.
I have not heard back from her today. Everything is at a standstill. The tile is now ready to be enhanced since these pics were taken, but just to give you an idea of why I am becoming impatient ;) I also have two small children running around the mess...:) Hehe. Ugh!!!!
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8158121&uid=1373487&members=1

Hopefully it will all work out. My tile setter offered to regrout the bathroom since it is a smaller bathroom. I will use Impreg pro on the area. I am remaining optimistic. I would think if it were a grout issue the grout wuld have been several different colors to begin with before applied? I just hope that if she tells me that it will be truthful and forthright. I just get aggitaited when the "buck is passed".

Ripley...I would not worry much about enhancing...even though I did do a test area and this happened. Although in a small bathroom I would think that 6 by 6 area would be enough of the testing to make sure if would be okay and not be an issue. Of course that area looks fine and the rest of the area is well..... :crazy: Different....but alas so am I... The actual stone looks stunning after it was enhanced. Just really warm and pretty. It's the grout that turned colors. I would suggest doing like I am doing and enhancing before grout then ssealing it a second time with Impreg. pro or another solvent based sealer. I am not going to take the chance of messing up that much grout. Just not going to happen twice.

:crazy:

ripleys_mom
08-17-2005, 04:49 PM
Your floors look beautiful! I've been wanting travertine for years and although there are some beautiful travertine ceramic tile look-alikes, I'm happy I went with the stone.
I'm not much of a DIY'er so sealing/enhancing 700 sqft of travertine seems a little daunting. The pros make it sound like a cakewalk, but for a novice with 3 pallets of travertine it's a bit of a challenge. John seemed to think that if I broke the process into segments the task would seem less overwhelming. Although I don't have small children (well there is my husband, but that's another story :) ) I have a dog and 2 old cats and the seal/enhance is an extra step in the event of an accident or feline over eating :laugh2:
Your grout problem has me a little worried, so I'll talk to John about the discoloration. My grout lines are going to be very very small, hopefully any color variation that might occur won't be too noticeable.
Thanks for the advice.

doitright
08-17-2005, 06:01 PM
Hi Summer :)

The grout can look normal when dry, but sometimes when you wet it (after curing, but before sealing) you'll notice it doesn't evenly darken. If it gets enhanced like this, could be a reason to cause "splothchiness".

Jennifer is recommending that you use a grout release, but doesn't address the issue of avoiding splotcy grout. I'm with you on enhancing, then grouting. Make sure you've given the thinset under the stone plenty of time to cure, otherwise you'll have a whole new set of problems. Also allow enough time for the enhancer to cure before grouting.

Hi Ripleys Mom :)

Let's see how good JB does grouting. :D

PizzaPrincess
08-17-2005, 08:48 PM
DH and I are going to do over 700 square feet in our kitchen/sunroom and dinette. Then we are going to also do the laundry(100 sq feet) and a large masterbath (200 sq feet) we have two of the four pallets gone so far...shew!!! ;) So tomorrow is enhance day for most of the travertine. I am So NOT a do it yourselfer...we have had trouble finding someone who is experienced and willing to seal and enhance the stuff....I figured I'd just do ti myself. It is really just like cleaning the floor almost...think karate kid....wax on/wax off......LOL.....no seriously...we sponged it on then wiped off...very easy to do and the smell is not offensive at all. :yipee:

doitright
08-17-2005, 09:26 PM
Hi Summer :)

Good to see you happy again! ;)

PizzaPrincess
08-17-2005, 09:33 PM
I will be truly happy when this mess is over...Jennifer never called to let me know what she found out, if anything. I am going to just deal with it myself..... I am so not ever doing any more home improvements ever again! If I mention it...SMACK ME! LOL.


Wax on
Wax off. ;)

doitright
08-17-2005, 09:42 PM
Hi Summer :)

Looking at your last set of photos, looks like you've already covered almost any home improvement one can think of! :D

PizzaPrincess
08-17-2005, 10:01 PM
It all started with a new kitchen floor...

I am going to be silly enough to rip paper down and paint up a storm and replace the doors with solid wood panel doors. These cheap builder 50 cent doors make me ill!!!!

PizzaPrincess
08-19-2005, 11:10 AM
He grouted this morning. Would it be okay this evening later to take a bucket of fresh water and a deck mop to the floor to get all of the grout off There is a residue that come up with fresh water. I think his sponge does so little and it'd be easier to use the deck mop with a mop bucket and ringer to get it all off before I seal. Or should I wait until Monday(72 hrs) or will it be dried on by then?

doitright
08-19-2005, 06:40 PM
Hi Summer :)

Do you have any tile & stone specific neutral pH cleaner? :shades:

If not, you need to get you some! :nod: :D

Anyway, you can clean up the residue now. Actually, the sooner the better. If it's real heavy, you can use your deck mop if you prefer, but the key is to not put the film back down. You can either use a terry cloth and buff the haze off, or use the good old fashioned sponge. Todd has an excellent post here (http://johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=299745&postcount=11) . The key is to frequently change the water. I sometimes dampen the towel to keep the dust down and a better cleaning. Use two buckets. One to rinse your rag or sponge, and the other to dampen with the neutral cleaner. When the water starts to get cloudy change it.

Have I totally confused you now? :crazy:

PizzaPrincess
08-19-2005, 08:59 PM
No, not totally confused yet.


;)

Close though.

The neutral ph cleanser will not harm the unsealed, uncured grout? I am excited now to clean.

Oh one more question. He is scheduled to lay some 18 by 18 limestone in my masterbath either Monday or Tuesday. WOuld it be a good idea to lay those out in the garage and wash them up and then enhance and seal them along with the backsplash pieces this weekend so they can be grouted right away? Pros and cons to this? I know I would be wasting some enhancer on what he scraps. I am just trying to get at least a day ahead.

doitright
08-19-2005, 09:18 PM
The neutral ph cleanser will not harm the unsealed, uncured grout? I am excited now to clean.

Hi Summer :)

Since I recommended it, is that a stab because of your enhancer fiasco? :shades: :D

Seriously it won't hurt it. Actually, I've even used it in my rinse water.

Yes, get a jump, seal & enhance the stone. Pro's - Reread this entire thread! :rofl: Con's - None, since you're giving it time to properly cure. ;)

Wasting enhancer on the cuts? I wouldn't have that at the top of my worry list. Destress! :twitch: :)

PizzaPrincess
08-20-2005, 04:50 PM
Well NOW it is raining and I really have no place to properly enhance the stone and give it time to dry. Darnit!!! :bang:

He had to replace ONE little tile today and regrout it. :shake: Is it going to be OK to go ahead and seal the entire floor Monday still? I am about to go half nuts with all this mess. I want it back together. :shake:

PizzaPrincess
08-20-2005, 04:52 PM
P.S. There were no digs in that previous post...just one scared little sealing here. ;)


Oh btw. He did not get the toilet back on properly last night and my dining room ceiling is showing the results of that as well as the one wall of wallpaper. Nice eh? :shake:

doitright
08-20-2005, 05:58 PM
Hi Summer :)

One itty bitty tile shouldn't have an effect on the job. ;)

I just can't believe the situations that have been arising under one roof. :shake:

Well, you are on the downhill side. Make sure the enhancer has enough time to dry before grouting.

PizzaPrincess
08-20-2005, 11:47 PM
When can I move my washer and dryer and sofas back into the sealed rooms? If I seal it Monday early can I do it late that night? :crazy:

doitright
08-21-2005, 05:30 AM
Hi Summer :)

I'm confused. Are those areas already grouted? Are you going to seal & grout the same day? Are you going to seal the grout joints? What's your intended timetable of events?

With solvent based carrier sealers, it normally takes 72 hrs. to totally evaporate and cure. We have sometimes moved furniture around in the same room we seal the same day. Just try to give it as much time as possible. Don't forget these are impregnators (they don't sit on the surface). Just make sure any excess enhancer/sealer is buffed off with a towel.

PizzaPrincess
08-21-2005, 07:46 PM
No he already grouted early Friday Morning. I enhanced the stone before he grouted, now I need to seal the grout and apply the impreg. pro as a second coat of sealer to the entire floor. Grout included. Is this OK? :crazy:
I thought that maybe tomorrow evening I could move things back in? Like say 8p.m. or so. Like my sofas and chairs etc.? I am going to seal around 9a.m. I just so want my rooms back together. Especially now that my daughter is back to school and we can get somewhat of a normal life going on here and things cleaned up.

I already have the carpet cleaners on stand-by. Until recently we have never had a shoe on the carpet. It feels filthy now. I am hopeing that he can complete the masterbathroom backsplash and floor by thursday if he works the next four days well. That was I can seal it all over the weekened and have it normal by Monday. KWIM? :yipee:

PizzaPrincess
08-21-2005, 08:17 PM
Would it be really bad to seal my tile/grout tonight in the laundry room so the washer and dryer can go back in the morning? Or is that big NO-NO! :x: ???

cx
08-21-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm not the expert here, Summie, but it seems to me that with all the problems you seem to be having you're pushing those minimum curing/drying times pretty hard. And unless the stone and the grout and the application of both are exactly the same as what you've already tried and found successful, it seems to me you'd want to test this procedure you're about try before applying anything to the entire floor.

I fully understand the frustration of not being able to use your floor, but it would seem the frustration with poor results on the enhancing/sealing would be even less desirable.

Feel free to tell me I'm misreading all this and that you have it all well in hand if that's the case. :)

My opinion; worth price charged.

PizzaPrincess
08-21-2005, 09:22 PM
CX. I have not rushed any of it yet. I actually let the bathroom that is in question cure longer than suggested. :yeah: Mainly because I did not have time to seal/enhance it at the 72 hour mark. :shake: Obviously I will probably just wait to seal anything before the 72 hr mark, but honestly I did wait on that goofy bathroom. I guess I am just frusturated that we are behind so much on this project. There have been so many yuckies along the way. I think I am just dreaming of havingit all done and chillin with a glass of wine. Maybe I need to chill witht he glass of wine now instead. Seriously though. I waited on the funky bathroom.

doitright
08-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Hi Summer :)

Go ahead and seal tomorrow afternoon. You can still put everything away tomorrow night if you like.

BTW, I'm embarressed to ask, but what the heck is KWIM? :shades:

Hope you're chillin with that glass of wine! :loaded: :D

PizzaPrincess
08-21-2005, 10:13 PM
Definately chilled with the wine. I organized my drawers to make myself feel better for a day or so...KWIM is Know what I mean. ;) I am so excited I actually got to teach YOU something!!!! :yipee:

PizzaPrincess
08-22-2005, 10:23 AM
I was mopping the floor today to prepare for the sealing and noticed in some areas some thinset is showing. What can be done about that? It is not in real noticable places. Like there is some under the dryer. Who cares there, and even in the closet, but there are a couple spots in walkways. What can be done. Should I even bother asking? :x:

doitright
08-22-2005, 08:42 PM
Hi Summer :)

Are we having a difficult time terminating this thread? :shades:

You need to remove the grout/thinset and regrout/reseal. :(

PizzaPrincess
08-22-2005, 10:43 PM
he noticed it and is going to fix it.


Sorry I keep dragging this out. I'll keep quiet now. :x: ;)

doitright
08-23-2005, 05:26 AM
Hi Summer :)

I didn't mean to be harsh. Just giving you a hard time (because I can). :D

No need to be quiet. That's what we're here for. :nod: ;)

PizzaPrincess
08-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Ok, well you've asked for it now. ;)
:tongue:
Summie