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LadyGodiva
02-06-2005, 09:34 AM
Pair accused of child torture arrested in Utah
Florida officials say 5 of 7 children suffered starvation, abuse


(CNN) -- A Florida couple accused of torturing and starving five of their seven children were captured Friday night in Utah after detectives were able to track their cell phone signals, authorities said.

Capt. Jim Cernich of the Sheriff's Office in Citrus County, Florida, said deputies in San Juan County, Utah, apprehended Linda Dollar, 51, and John Dollar, 58, on a road after recognizing their gold 2000 Lexus sport utility vehicle.

The Dollars face charges in Citrus County, where they lived in Beverly Hills, on one count of aggravated child abuse/torture for all five children.

The accusations include pulling out the children's toenails with pliers and keeping them so malnourished they "looked like pictures from Auschwitz," authorities said.

According to Florida law, aggravated child abuse is a first-degree felony punishable upon conviction by a term of 30 years to life in prison.

The Dollars put up no resistance when they were picked up south of Blanding in southeast Utah, said Bruce Bushore, a sheriff's dispatcher in San Juan County. They were being held in the county jail in Monticello, he said.

Bushore said deputies had been on the lookout for the couple after a nationwide bulletin was issued for them.

"[San Juan deputies] spent a long day on this, looking for these people," Cernich said. "They combed the area and were just about ready to shut down operations when they spotted the vehicle" at about 5:10 p.m. (7:10 p.m. ET).

Cernich said detectives worked with a cell phone company to track signals to two mobile phones being used by the couple.

The Dollars were not the biological parents of the seven children. Gail Tierney from the Citrus County Sheriff's Office said they were their legal guardians, and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, commenting on the case Friday, said the Dollars had adopted the children.

Tierney said two other children were said to be favorites of the couple and were spared abuse.

911 call brought help
The case came to authorities' attention two weeks ago when paramedics responding to a 911 call from the home in Beverly Hills took a 16-year-old boy to a hospital in nearby Crystal River, Tierney said.

The boy was bleeding from a laceration on his head and had red marks on his neck. He weighed 59 pounds, she said.

"That was just the start of the alarming parts of this case," she said in a telephone interview.

Tierney said investigators believe John Dollar grabbed the boy by his neck, raising him off his feet, and then dropped him. The boy struck his head on a fireplace, causing the laceration to his head, she said.

Authorities went to the home in Beverly Hills, about 85 miles north of Tampa, and interviewed the other children, including twin 14-year-old boys who were so malnourished they weighed 36 and 38 pounds apiece, Tierney said.

One child in the home was their 12-year-old sister, the Florida Department of Children and Families said. The three came under the couple's care in 1995.

In addition to the three teen boys and the 12-year-old girl, the other child allegedly abused is a 13-year-old girl. The two children not harmed are a 17-year-old girl and 14-year-old boy.

In a 1995 DCF questionnaire, Linda Dollar wrote, "We have five adopted children and have seen what we can do to help those less fortunate, we can see so many children who need special care, love and an opportunity to be part of a warm, loving, caring home atmosphere."

The Dollars are accused of forcing the five children to sleep in a closet in the master bedroom with a "wind chime affixed to the door so that the Dollars would know if they tried to get out of the closet," Tierney said.

In addition, they are accused of using a cattle prod or some sort of stun gun to shock the children, securing them to spots in the house with chains, striking their feet with hammers and pulling out the children's toenails with pliers.

"There was evidence of damage or missing toenails of these children," Tierney said. There was no evidence of sexual abuse, she said.

"To look at the photos I saw, it was just extremely unnerving," Tierney said. "They looked like pictures from Auschwitz."

Tierney said it also appeared that the Dollars tried to keep the children inside the home as much as possible and that each one was home-schooled.

Authorities removed all seven children from the home January 27 and placed them in the custody of the Department of Children and Families. The Dollars were to appear in court for a hearing Monday but never showed up.

Allegations 'revolting and disgusting'
Tierney said Friday the children are doing well "in terms of eating more and eating better."

Don Thomas, a DCF administrator, called the allegations "revolting and disgusting."

Thomas said the department acted as quickly as possible to remove the children from the home, and Bush said the department did its job properly.

He said that the case was the first reported involving the family and said that authorities are investigating where the children came from.

From March to October 1995, the Dollars were licensed as foster parents in Hillsborough County, Thomas said.

The couple moved to Beverly Hills in August. Before then, they lived in Tennessee with the seven children and apparently ran a small school in the Knoxville area.

"They said they were foster children, and they had come from Florida and these children were being abused, so they had rescued them from homes," said Jean Underwood, who rented a house to the Dollars near Knoxville before they returned to Florida.

Acting on a tip earlier Friday, authorities in Polk County, Florida, found the couple's 1996 black and gold Prevost Marathon motor home at Deer Creek RV park in Davenport, about 75 miles southeast of where the family lived, Cernich said.

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rob 223
02-06-2005, 11:41 AM
I really wish the death penalty was a little more liberal for open and shut cases like this. I mean does anyone really think they need a trial? that we will pay for.
Gee, thanks for not leting this one slip by LG :shake:.

e3
02-06-2005, 03:16 PM
A story to make you feel better

Sand Lake Mi. 4 year old boy steals moms car drives to the video store only to find it closed..Had to turn around and drive back home...Mom was sound asleep on the couch.Might have gotten away with it but the police saw the car going down the street at about 10 miles hr., with what they thought was no one driving it since the boy couldnt see over the wheel..When the 4year old turned back into his aprt. complex he side swiped a car ,almost ran into the building,backed up into the police car!!!No charges have been filed...But I think he had to go streight to bed with no bed time snack..

opiethetileman
02-06-2005, 03:30 PM
parents like that or any other major crimanal rite now should have to go to IRAQ and send a us soldier home in place. If they make it great if they dont justice served.

Bill Vincent
02-06-2005, 07:51 PM
I really wish the death penalty was a little more liberal for open and shut cases like this.

Nah-- put em in prison for life. The inmates'll do the rest. They'll WISH they were dead.

Splinter
02-06-2005, 08:10 PM
forget it bill... I dont want my taxes paying for their cable tv in prison... They should get the chair.... Absolutely disgusting....

LadyGodiva
02-06-2005, 08:39 PM
I agree Splinter. Those poor children!! :bang:

Bill Vincent
02-06-2005, 09:14 PM
I would have agreed with you until I met my wife. She used to work in the prison system in California years ago, and told me what a nightmare existence it is for people who abuse kids. I'd rather see him live and suffer. In addition to that, a prisoner on death row for 5 years (which is about the minimum any death row inmate will spend while mandatory appeals go through) will cost the txpayer just as much as it would to house that same prisoner in the general population for 25 years, because of all the legal fees the state pays for during the appeals process.

jjwq8
02-06-2005, 09:32 PM
Dan,
What have Iraqi children done to deserve exposure to the Dollars?

Take the two of them somewhere quiet and make sure you come back alone.

kquilts
02-06-2005, 09:32 PM
This year I saw the worst child abuse case in all my years of teaching. One of my students walked in my class and said her mom "strung her up." When I got a closer look I saw she was missing skin. Her mother had beaten the skin off her body. Her mother also said if she told any one she would be beaten wet. When the CPS worker saw her she was removed from the school. I went with the to the CPS office with the child. We sat for two hours in a room no bigger than a closet waiting for paperwork. When it was time to take pictures getting this child's clothes off was agony. Her pants were dried to her sores. After the pictures we waited for another two hours. She cried in my arms and her little brother sat there beside us hitting himself on the head. CPS gave me custody of the two children until the father could come from out of state to get them. When we left I took them straight to toys R us and told them to get whatever they wanted. I also bought them some clothes for the next day. We got to my house and totally surprised my husband and son. The little girl was terrified of my husband. I later found out that a year earlier this poor baby was taken away from this same mother for selling her. The father came the next day. Seeing this kind of abuse has haunted me all year. This is just part of the strange story, if I told it all I would be typing all night. Karen

Hamilton
02-06-2005, 09:43 PM
omg, i have 3 children. i cant even fathom. i cant even start to understand
that mentality. what the hell, how do people become so friggin insane?

Sonnie Layne
02-07-2005, 12:21 AM
Hamilton, I have one daughter who's turned out fine. She had to have her "time off" from reality.

To answer your question, it's typically some form of drug abuse (including alcohol), a mental disease or in some cases a physical disease that could cause a person to become that psychotic. Psychosis on that level is rarely successfully treated on a long term basis. Problem is, in the cases where we have medications or physical stimulation, the patient doesn't stick with it. I've experience.

My mom was a doozy. I thought the closet was my friend, tho' I preferred caged under the bed. It wasn't so dark. Thankfully I was 'rescued' if you will, at an early age. I can still smell the closet. I nearly went nuts when they assigned me a lower bunk at boot camp. I got over it, 'cause I knew somehow, from a space inside me that it I had nothing to do with it. These children need to be gently nudged to that direction, but should be avoided too much intrusion through mental therapy. It can somehow reinforce what it's meant to get rid of, good therapists are harder to come by than good and qualified chiropractors, which I admire by and large. They have to be left to figure these things out alone with the vast power of the human spirit. No.... don't listen to those that say you can treat a human child as you do an abandoned puppy and charm it into a 'normal' place in society by feeding, comforting, nurturing it. Not by dressing them nicely and expecting them to respond to it. They don't understand nice. Argueably we aren't pack animals. We've evolved by our own will.

Sorry, I just got away there... I need to open up my word processor, figure I'll be up the rest of the night responding to you in the privacy of my own fingers. Anyway, I'm way off subject here but maybe not so far as it seems.

Can't believe the Eagles lost again. :D

boysmom
02-07-2005, 07:45 AM
the stories of child abuse make me cry. everytine i read something or see the news, my stomach just turns.
i look at my 2 boys, & though they can be more than a handful sometimes, i cannot imagine ever hurting them. they do call me a mean mommy, though, because i take away their tv & video games for poor behavior!
there are so many people who would give anything to have children & then there are these people, people so despicable no derogatory name is dergoatory enough, who have children & hurt them. they even adopted these kids! why?!?
while it would on one hand make some happy to have them suffer horribly, & you can be sure they would in jail, i think it's better to just get rid of them & move on. besides, if a prisoner's life is in danger due to their crime, don't they often put the person in solitary, which i'm guessing costs more?
you wonder why no one ever questioned where these people's kids were, since by most accounts, the kids were rarely seen outside. that's not like any kids i know.

LadyGodiva
02-07-2005, 07:46 AM
Sonny, thanks for sharing the other side with us. I know of a situation now that isn't anywhere as horrible as this one, but still the children were neglected and abused for many years. They live with their grandparents at the moment (neighbours), and I was horrified to hear that the little girl had been molested not only by her mother's boyfriends but by the mother herself!! The mother is an alcoholic and drug addict (prescription stuff). Yet she never wanted to give up the kids. I believe the girl (15) will go to live with her aunt, and the boy (17) will live with his grandparents. What amazes me though is how 'good' these kids are. You can tell that they haven't had a noraml life, but in spite of all that they've seen and all that they've missed, they're still sweet. Since meeting them, I've wondered what goes through their minds, and how they cope. They don't speak of the abuse or neglect though. They have both gotten along very well with my own children, and I encourage them to come over and visit whenever they want to. I think the worst thing an adult could do in this life is to abuse/neglect innocent children, and I sure hope some of these people get what they deserve in jail!!!!!

Bill, you're probably right.

HDtilegrunt
02-07-2005, 08:38 AM
I have to agree with Bill (unless it's Texas where justice is much swifter than elsewhere). The inmates will have no pity on them. Sending them to the general population will give them the death sentance but it will be slow and torturing. Problem is the folks at child protective services spend so much time with non issues and let non issue cases sit unresolved on their desks so as to not have to deal with the real problem issues. When my daugther was born, she suffered a head injury during birth. After several visits to the pediatrician we were sent to a childrens hospital for a CT scan since at her age she needed to be put under sedation. The radiologist came out and said someone shook our baby with out getting any one else to give an opinion. If not for the intervention of our pediatrician who has known us for 11 years, she would have been taken from us there. The next day, DYFS showed up at our door as we were on our way out for New Years Eve with the kids. After interviewing us and our kids in seperate rooms, inspecting every closet and cabinet in our house, and checking all the older kids for bruises, letting us know the DA is involved, etc, 4 hours later they left and we spent the next week going to doctor after doctor for all kinds of xrays, exams, at their whim, with sometimes as little as 2 hours notice to be at the appointment or loose the child. A week after all this started we went to the neurologist appointment we made when we had scheduled the CT scan. It was at the same hospital. The chief neurosurgeon (Dean of Neurosurgery as well at University of Pennsylvania Hospital) looked at the CT scan and said the radiologist made a mistake (no kidding) and she was just born with a larger than normal head and the radiologist mistook extra fluid occupying the larger skull as blood. It took 6 months and a reporter and the Director of Human services from this state to get DYFS to close the case as unfounded allegations. In this time, there were 5 child deaths in high risk homes under investigation by DYFS. All the time they wasted with us and I'm sure may others could have been used to investigate these high risk situations. I will no longer ever believe the "over worked" excuse the media always reports. It always seems that these high profile cases invlolve home schooled children as well. You'd think at this point these state agencies would recognize this fact. While I'm not about government intervention into our lives at all, even sending a rep from the local school board to see the homeschool kids once in a while might not be a bad idea. I forgot to mention, one of the social workers who was in charge of the case after looking through my house asked if she could have one of my cards after seeing the tile work throughout the house. Ofcourse I told her no.

Bill Vincent
02-07-2005, 09:39 AM
Good answer. :mad:

I have a real hard time with situations where kids are hurt, either physically or mentally. Something goes off in my head, and I'm ready to be as violent as anyone you've ever seen. I guarantee you, if anyone were to hurt my kids, or now my grandkids, they'd never make it to jail.

LadyGodiva
02-07-2005, 11:34 AM
That's just awful. I don't buy the 'overworked' excuse with the many cases that are brought into the open only AFTER the child died etc. Seen to many of those.

I heard about a couple who have been homeschooling their kids for the last 18 years. Though they haven't physically harmed the children from what I understand, they have certainly done some mental damage. The 18 year old (a male) sitll believes in Santa Claus! He has never been home alone, never been to school in his life, and even has a parent present when he was making his First Communion and needed instructions at church. The second boy is 13 and he also is being raised the same way. The father is a control freak, and does not allow his wife to drive to work. He is working, and he drives her to work when he gets home in the evening (she is at a Target store), and the boys must go along for the ride. When it's time to pick mom up, regardless of the hour, they all jump in the car and go for the ride. When she had to work at 5:00 a.m. for Thanksgiving, they had to wake the boys and take them for the ride. These kids have never had friends, and only visit relatives in Florida or Kansas once a year. They are not allowed to actually stay over at anyone, including their grandparents. The parents must be present. Apparently they want to make sure the children remain as 'children' for as long as possible. When my cousin was relating this story (she lives next door to them), I thought she was joking. Her children are not allowed on their property, and have never seen the boys outside playing UNLESS dad is with them or their mom. The homeschooling takes places when dad is home, and he leaves work for them to finish during the day (while mom is there to watch them).

I often wonder how they'll cope with real life :bang:

Why is it that so many freaks have children???

HDtilegrunt
02-07-2005, 11:48 AM
My opinion, that is abuse. My children may turn out a bit mental just from genetics :crazy: but not by their upbringing. Had they tried to take our baby or any of the others, I'd still be in jail. I am very grateful that my wife and I have such a strong bond and we could lean on and rely on each other. It was very stressful on us, but we are even stronger now. By the way, my wife's degree in in social work, which they didn't see coming. She couldn't stand the attitudes, red tape and mismanagement of people. time, and funds. And our baby girl, 1 year old, just needs shirts with snaps in the back, other than that, she is well more advanced at her age than the others were at that time. LG, I expect some sort of comment from that statement, but I cannot deny it's true.

Sonnie Layne
02-07-2005, 11:23 PM
Lady,

You're right, the worst thing a trusted adult can do is to abuse or neglect. It's argueable as to whether neglect ranks second or not. I see them both the same.

Next worst is to interfere with their ability to cope and accept the difference. We all know kids are made of rubber, so elastic. To interfere because we're parents or adults with tremendous compassion sometimes comes in the way. The kids are human survivors. Things pass. We should let them, a degree has to be defined for sure, but with extreme caution should we approach their demeanor. A gentle nudge will often suffice, as any sailor will attest.

It's good to be in a society where people are allowed to care for others' offspring, it's a natural and humanity driven thing. I've often thought of it, but it seems I don't meet requirements because I'm weird and not Presbyterian. That's odd... my life was in their hands. For several years. Then I had to move on to the Methodists, they had chateaus to offer instead of dorms. :D:D

John K
02-08-2005, 05:13 AM
Bill is correct. The inmates have their own code of ethics. They don't like child abusers or people that eat other people. :)

I wonder if they will give "the king of pop" a pass?

Bill Vincent
02-08-2005, 09:25 PM
Next worst is to interfere with their ability to cope and accept the difference. We all know kids are made of rubber, so elastic.

Sonny, I have to disagree. Kids may SEEM to bounce back, but I believe that any kind of traumatic experience, especially early in life, shapes who we are, and how we handle our lives as adults. One of the most horrible truths in our society is that abuse replicates itself. Look at how many abusers were abused themselves as children. Unless people are proactive in reversing that, it tends to go on and on till someone DOES break the cycle.

John-- I believe he stands a better chance of getting a "pop" than a pass. That's a good thing.

LadyGodiva
02-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Ophrah Winfrey had a rough start, and was raped when she was 12 I believe by her cousin. After the act, the bastard took her out for ice cream. That's why I think she developed the weight problem. The effects of abuse manifests itself in different ways for different people. Some might be abusers themselves, drug addicts, alcoholics, gamblers, murderers etc.