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flatfloor
01-22-2002, 09:14 AM
JC, are my tags correctly placed?

p.s. on your site the META tags go above the HEAD not on the bottom of the body. the search engines aint goin to find you that way.

p.s. you don't have to close a body onLoad tag when you are in a preset reply box,that would be like using two /body tags FYI.

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JC
01-22-2002, 03:58 PM
Oops my bad Jim I ment to say in the head above the body...Just like yours are..your fine. Nowonder he did not understand me..He had his on the bottom of the body(bottom of the page)..they need to be in the head like yours are.

There is also some coding that can be used to boost up the exposure to search engines..not quite sure how it works I have yet to investigate but when I do I let you know how it works..or just give you the code for it.

I've been getting about 10 differant visitors a day and there is nothing on the site yet..odd huh?

flatfloor
01-22-2002, 05:06 PM
Thanks for taking the time to check, good to hear, I picked the Meta tag words but that was all I did.

I was at your site for a minute today, that leaves nine more, Cami and others from here?

Cami A
01-22-2002, 06:26 PM
Yep, I was there, seeing if there was anything new...

John Bridge
01-22-2002, 07:26 PM
Okay, I haven't been to anyone's site today. I'll go there when I finish with this.

JC, I don't presume to know as much as you about computers, but I do know a little about web sites and HTML. Are you guys referring to "keywords" when you say meta tags? If that's what you're talking about I can tell you that as long as they come before the end tag, it doesn't matter. It's just customary for keywords and descriptions to be near the top. "Description" is another helper.

Now let me tell you something about search engines. The so-called meta-search sites have things called spiders, crawlers, etc. that constantly go over the entire content of the web. More and more, programmers have directed the crawlers away from keywords and into the text of the front page of the site. The reason being that keywords have been so abused as to make them irrelevant to the content of the pages of the site.

"Directories," like Yahoo, have actual persons selecting the sites that will be listed. Keywords mean nothing to these people. That's another subject, though.

You should still get your keywords and your description in order, but . . . . you should repeat your thrust, your theme, as often as you can in the TEXT of your front page. That's what most of the crawlers are going to pick up on nowadays. Go to the front page of my site and see how many time tile and marble and ceramic tile are repeated -- as many times as I could do it without puking.

http://johnbridge.com

This comes to you free of charge from an old tile setter. I'm now going to view a couple sites in HTML. I'll let you know what I think. (You know I will). :D

flatfloor
01-22-2002, 07:52 PM
John, as it was explained to me meta tags = keywords.

I hope you meant you were going to check mine out.

Incidentally this brings up an opportunity to ask something that has been on my mind.

Since I have been posting here and using my signature it seems as though some search engines are finding our site and listing it up in the top ten. Any relationship?

John Bridge
01-22-2002, 08:09 PM
Jim,

I just visited your site. Didn't get to JC's yet -- gotta go back and find the address.

Meta tags are all the tags before and after every statement in the header in most cases. Meta tags say: <meta name= etc.

Here's what I did not find on your front page.

<meta name="description" content="We are North America's premier producer of self-leveling cement.">

This can appear anywhere in the header. You can redo it, of course, but it shouldn't be too long. When it comes up on search engines, only the first several words will show.

The fact that your url is listed on this site every time you post (in hyperlink form) is a plus for you. Engines and directories score a site on how many other sites point to it and how often it occurs. You're very welcome, mon ami. I stick my hyperlink on other people's sites every time I get the chance. :)

flatfloor
01-22-2002, 08:15 PM
Mercy Beucoops mon bon ami.

And before Bud asks, no Bud, I did not call John a box of scouring powder.

John Bridge
01-22-2002, 08:18 PM
:)

Bud did, probably. He with the "pitiful" web site.

Sevan
03-15-2002, 10:34 PM
Hey All,
Here is a good link that explains everything you want to know about keywords and keyword density.
http://www.4webhelp.com/keyword.shtml

Tim
http://www.4WebHelp.com

John Bridge
03-16-2002, 02:33 PM
Welcome aboard, Tim, and thanks for listing your site. Very helpful, especially the keyword tool.

flatfloor
03-16-2002, 03:02 PM
Stick around!

Keyword tool tells me I have a minor amount of work to do. The keyword I thought would be most active was surprisingly low, by tweaking the text just a little I could have increased hits from 67 to almost 700. Thank you!

John Bridge
03-16-2002, 03:49 PM
Hey Jim,

You still don't have a description on your main page. Put it right under the keywords.

<meta name="description" content="This is the levelest site on Lon Gisland, etc.">

flatfloor
03-16-2002, 05:55 PM
John, I don't follow you. Not saying your wrong, I'm saying I don't understand.

John Bridge
03-16-2002, 07:24 PM
Jim,

You can describe your site with meta tags also. Whatever you put in the description might be picked up by search engines and displayed in the search results.

Open your main page in HTML by going to the "View" menu on your browser (Internet Explorer) when your main page is up. Click "source" in the drop down menu.

You'll be able to see what I'm talking about. You have not listed a description of your site.

flatfloor
03-16-2002, 08:41 PM
Thanks your Webship, I'll have a talk with my people Mon. Say hello to your people for me. ;)

Sevan
03-17-2002, 06:24 AM
Jim,

Your welcome and John's right about the description on your main page. It will also help you if you use a couple of your keywords in the description. One last thing I noticed as I was checking out your site is that you have a lot of keywords listed in your meta tags, if the actual word does not appear in the text on your web page you are better off not using it. It will help you rank higher in the search engines as that web page has more "relevant" content. You could always make another web page (using the keywords you didn’t use on the first) which should help you increase your traffic. Hope this helps.

Tim
http://www.4WebHelp.com

John Bridge
03-17-2002, 09:36 AM
Jim,

My people say hello to your people and want to know how they are doing.

flatfloor
03-17-2002, 02:57 PM
If this were another site we could people back and forth for days and generate about 4,000 hits. :D

Bud Cline
03-17-2002, 04:58 PM
If you guys don't cool it, I'm going to ask JC's people to make a "hit" on both your people. Then my people will be very very happy.

John Bridge
03-17-2002, 05:44 PM
Bud,

Tell your people that my people and Jim's people have gotten the message.

Wait. What was the message?

Sevan
03-17-2002, 06:47 PM
God, it's been along time since I slung some mud (20 + years). How I do miss those days!

Tim

flatfloor
03-17-2002, 07:05 PM
Mud isn't the only thing that gets slunged around here. (slunged-past pluperfect of sling, case any grammarians are watching) Hmm-should that be two Gs?