Dial Up

[cx]

JC:

I know you ain't a Windows guy, but..........

Always in past when I want to open a program that requires phone connection, I would get a window with a prompt to commence dial-up. All by it's onsies, my confuser has taken it upon itself to bypass that step and just start dialing by itsownself when I open such a program.

I can't find a place to control this option. You know where to I might look?

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[JC]

You know cx that is just one of those many mysterious Microsft things IMHO, I have in the past tried to control that same issue but it seems that somewhere in the deepest darkest bowels of you computer registry there is something perhaps spurred by adding or removing programs that reqiure internet connections that decides all by itself.(some would call this a bug)
My advice is that unless it irritates you to no end and you are willing to add and remove programs and possibly reformat till you fix it then to just go with the flow on this one.

P.s. You might be compelled to maybe start a new dial-up connection to see if it makes a differance by:

Go to your desktop, click on my computer,click on dial-up networking,right click to make new connection,name it what ever or nothing,insert the ISP's phone number your computer will dial. and that's it you just made a new connection.

It is safe to delete your old one if you want and there might be some other optians in there for you to try. Might work might not.

Also check with the program that is wanting the dial-up connection coz sometimes they have an option to control such things.

Also if you are REALLY determined then goto microsofts FAQ forum and find the answer. Can't remember the url but do a search for lets say 'microsoft+faq' and if you can't find it I will look for you but I will need some more data and your windows version and a brief discription of your PC components.

Also try a DUN upgrade which will install a new or upgraded DUN(dial-up networking) and possible 'reset' your origenal settings that may have been altered by a over ambitious program.

Good luck


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;RID;faqs

This url is also good for many other windows stuff everyone should visit it at least once.

[Edited by JC on 12-25-2001 at 03:26 PM]

[JC]

Here's something I beleive you asked me about a while back.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/work/articles/004Apr/mobile.asp

[Bud Cline]

CX,

First things first. Reboot!

[cx]

Aw, c'mon, Bud, even I ain't that dumb!






[usually]

[Bud Cline]

No one said you were dumb. That's exactly the words I used when a tech at my ISP ask me first thing when I had the indentical problem.

He was curteous though and took me thru several settings checks but we changed nothing. After patronizing me for a few minutes he said; "well Mr Cline, now if you'll reboot then call me back we'll try to figure it out".

I was too embarrassed to call him back. He was right from the beginning, and he never once suggested I was dumb.

This has happened several times and each time they say this program I have (Windows) sometimes forgets stuff.....damned if it don't.....I guess.

[flatfloor]

Kelly, do you have any kind of repair program on your computer? JC can reccommend one.

[cx]

C'mon, Jim, you makin' that up, ain't ya? Think ol' CX'll fall for anything.

I'll sure look in here for my repair program. You wait right there.

[flatfloor]

http://www.ontrack.com/FixIt/

I'm cereal, this is what I had b4 my puter died

[cx]

Ain't never heard of such a thing!

How it s'pose to fix my confuser if it's PART of my confuser? Physician, heal thyself?! And if it was in your puter, how come it didn't fix yours afore it died?

I think some of those features are part of my Norton virus program, but I don't really know which parts I have. Hell, I can't even tell if the anti-virus part actually works, 'cept I ain't never got no viruses.

Who else out there thinks I aughta buy one more program I don't understand and won't know how to use?

[JC]

careful with those repair programs coz sometimes they might do things that are undesirable. Also I don't think they will affect the DUN in anyway mostly I think they just clean stuff out and are very hesitant about making actual system changes.

[cx]

JC:

Can those programs actually clean up anything that can't be cleaned up manually, using existing programming?

[JC]

I don't think so, any code they use has had to of been written by a programmer who can access that stuff themself. Unless it is a microsoft thing that is blocked but I doubt it.
From my experience with those programs (which I quit using years ago) has been that they just do the basic computer things that alot of people are unfamiliar with. Again maybe they are better now I have not used any for some time and am unfamiliar with the one mentioned.
I did hose a computer once with one of those..well all I needed to do was reformat but as a newbie that was like the worst thing to me at the time..
Funny now I just put up with all kinds of dumb glitches and bugs and don't even bother to fix minor problems and even some semi serious things as long as I can still do what I want. Then every so often I just re-format and start over.
Kinda like trying to walk around a construction site : you can keep stepping over little stuff and walking around little stuff but it is easier just to wait till you get time and then clean the entire room at once rather then waste precious working time.
My guess is that most of you guys have never formated your computers since you gut them and by now are so cluttered up and slow with constant disc accesses that they really need it.
Proprietory computers are harder to do coz you don't have seperated drivers for each device..instead you have one 'restore' disc that only reloads all kinds of extra useless ad's and garbage back into your system without (many times) letting you get JUST the drivers you need.

They say you should reformat at least once a year to keep your system stable and fast...something to think about if your tired of seeing that hour glass.

[Bud Cline]

Huh?

[John Bridge]

Kelly,

In Internet Explorer (browser) go to "Tools." Then "Internet Options," then "Connections."

Uncheck "Always dial my default connection."

I have mine checked, though, and I like the feature. If you turn it off, you have to click on your connection icon and manually connect.

I think . . .

[flatfloor]

Kelly what I had was a mechanical failure (I think)

The Fixit thing I had you just told it to run and if it found a problem it told you and then you said OK, fixit. Is it any good, how the hell do I know? I'm, as you well know, loster than you.

I would not even presume to debate its value with JC.

[JC]

I did'nt say they were bad I just said be careful..when they ask you make sure you know what they are asking you.

[flatfloor]

Jc, I know you didn't say they were bad. My poor choice of words. What I meant was I couldn't discuss them intelligently with you. I know what you mean about understanding what they are asking, couple of times I backed off because I didn't.

[dreesja]

Hello JC,

You guys really should charge visitors like myself for the entertainment. I've enjoyed all this site has to offer.

If you're still taking a virtual beating with the dial-up connection and want it corrected I will be happy to assist. First, and foremost, is the Windows Operating System you are using and the Application that seems to be giving you the problem.

I may not know much about tile, but I love my 'puter.

John

[cx]

John:

Our mommas done tole all of us not to talk to no strangers, so I went looking at your profile - and you is still a stranger. We always looking for more confuser experts on accounta JC don't like Bill Gates not none any and therefore ain't in the habit of keepin' up with Windows stuff. Still, we gotta know who/what you are before we trust you with our deepest, most personal 'puter stuff. Know what I mean?

And we DO INDEED charge for the entertainment. This here place is run by one John Bridge who is also the founder and chief scam operator of the Save Mt. Houston Fund, to which all visitors to this site are required to make a generous donation periodically. :D


[I get all that right, John?]

[dreesja]

Your Momma gives excellent advice.

Modifications made to my Profile. Check out my Website Hyperlink, "Gus' WebSite" to be precise, and you will gain a better understanding to "what" I am. I must warn you that I designed it around high-speed connections, so dial-up users must have patience. It is not as bad as waiting for the mud to dry, mind you, but it can seem slow coming off the server at times.

My offer is sort of pay back for the tile advice I have received on this site. I'm not much of a Microsoft fanatic either but a challenge is a challenge.

[JC]

Feel free to jump in with any advice you have John, I am not really an expert just kinda got elected is all..heck half the time I am not much help but sometimes we get the stuff fixed.

Welcome

[dreesja]

Thanks JC.

I have not received the bronze bit-bucket award for computer Know-How either, but I learned it is better to read the Manual than smash the hardware into tiny unrecognizable parts.

Like I mentioned CX, it helps to know the Operating System and Application causing the conflict in order to make headway. It is best to let the Operating System run the show where hardware (dial-up modem, etc...) is involved, but all too often third party software installed on a machine wants to take over and that is where the problems usually begin. Symantec software is notorious for this issue.

If you feel that Third Party Software is the culprit, including Outlook and Outlook Express Mail Programs (even though they are part of Microsoft’s suite of products), look in the direction of “Preferences” and “Options”, usually found under the “Tools” menu. From there you have to sniff around for “Dial-Up Options”, “Connections” or similar tabs that will lead you to check boxes or radio buttons that have to be re-configured to restore your dial-up prompt box that let you decide if the modem is going off-hook to place that call. These check boxes and radio buttons often come in the form of “Automatically dial when …” or “Always prompt before Auto-Dialing”.

If you feel it might be the Operating System (usually the case if this behavior occurs with multiple applications), then right click the specific Dial-Up Networking icon if running Win9x/ME and select “Properties”. You might have to sniff around there until you find the right property sheet to make the necessary changes. Operating Systems built on the Windows NT Kernel will require a different technique and is a little more involved.

Good luck. Hope this helps.


[Edited by dreesja on 12-27-2001 at 01:31 AM]

[flatfloor]

John, I suppose there's no point in asking you to contribute to the Bin Laden Rescue Fund?

[dreesja]

I really meant to ask cx about the elevation of Mt. Houston before I send a fist full of pesos. I suspect it's sort of like the mountain range running down the middle of Florida, flat as far as the eye can see except for the occasional hill.

Well flatfloor, I might consider a contribution to the "Rusty Bayonet up Bin Laden's A**" campaign. Stuffing freshly peeled lemons in the open wounds can be used to control any life threatening bleeding.

[Bud Cline]

H-m-m-m! Ex Green Barete huh?

[cx]

John: (New John, that is. How we gonna deal with that?)

Gracias for the information. Scariest part is that I almost understand nearly all you said. Some day, I'm confident, the light is gonna come on. Ain't likely to be this week, though.

I think I have been to all the places and looked again at all the settings. I'm running Windows ME and the applications that I'm talking about are all Outlook and Outlook Express type thingies (you'll notice that we all try to use the specific terminology of the various trades whenever possible on this board).

It's not a really big deal, and I wouldn't even have brought it up had it not been that my confuser appears to have taken it upon itself to change SOMETHING without even axing moi - without even telling moi, in fact.

If it starts dialing itself up and I tell it "cancel", it will then give me the old dial-up window and make me tell it to connect when I want to. But next time I'm off-line and tell Outlook Express to check messages, or hit refresh on another Outlook application, It just commences to dial without so much as a please or thank you.

It's mostly just a curiosity. What else is it afixin' to take upon itsownself, eh?

JC:
Haven't tried to make a new dial-up connection as you suggested. But hell, I haven't looked to see if my modem has a speaker either, and how many weeks/months has it been since I done axed about that problem? Alas, priorities.